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Jul 28, 2022 00:01:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
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I know Hogsters want some lens speed to obliterate backgrounds and thaz your joy, but a "hidden" benefit of the ~85mm FL is that its not overly long so when you do need some DoF you can get that at reasonable f/stops that allow handheld shutter speeds. IOW you can use it similarly to a normal lens when needed, yet not hafta crop away too many of your precious (expensive) MP just tighten up your framing.

Predigital there was a time in which very compact 75-150mm zooms were quite popular. An equally compact 85 or 90 is the almost-middle-ground of a 70-150, and at least 2 stops faster (and qsometimes smaller).
I know Hogsters want some lens speed to obliterate... (show quote)


Love the Isley Brothers album! I grew up with that playing on the radio.

That said, yeah, the lens does not have to be super-fast to yield decent images. And one benefit of mirrorless is being able to mount just about any sort of lens on it.

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Jul 28, 2022 10:56:46   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
Love the Isley Brothers album! I grew up with that playing on the radio.

That said, yeah, the lens does not have to be super-fast to yield decent images. And one benefit of mirrorless is being able to mount just about any sort of lens on it.


I don’t see how this is a mirrorless advantage?

You can mount anything to anything with the appropriate adapter, no?

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Jul 28, 2022 10:59:12   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
fetzler wrote:
I have this Oly lens too. I use it to photograph my pet parrot. He is a tough subject as he likes the camera and tries to look in the lens or jump on my hands. The lens is also good for landscape use and making panoramas.


Ha ha your parrot 🦜 is a ham. ;)

Unlike cats 🐈 all of which seem to think the camera is trying to steal their soul.

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Jul 28, 2022 11:08:09   #
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JD750 wrote:
I don’t see how this is a mirrorless advantage?

You can mount anything to anything with the appropriate adapter, no?

NOPE. No way.

90mm Leica RF lens on Nikon EVF body.
90mm Leica RF lens on Nikon EVF body....
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Jul 28, 2022 11:30:05   #
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burkphoto wrote:
While the 45mm Olympus lens has an effective field of view similar to 90mm on full frame ......................

(One of my favorite things about m43 is that there is more depth of field at wider apertures for the same field of view. Much of my subject matter benefits from that.)

M4/3 rules the DoF universe ! Not only optically but mechanically. Low mass is its own reward. Acoarst FW deserves plenty of credit as well.

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Jul 28, 2022 11:32:33   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
I don’t see how this is a mirrorless advantage?

You can mount anything to anything with the appropriate adapter, no?


You can't mount mirrorless cameras on dSLRs with any real practical success. Mirrorless cameras have a shorter flange-to-sensor distance than do dSLRs, so you CAN adapt most dSLR lenses to most mirrorless cameras. But going the other way does not allow the full focusing range to work.

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Jul 28, 2022 11:35:00   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
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M4/3 rules the DoF universe ! Not only optically but mechanically.

Low mass is its own reward.


I do like all major formats for some reasons. But the more I use Micro 4/3, the more I prefer it, for a very long list of reasons.

My iPhone has a lot more depth of field, though! Not that that's a bad or good thing... It's just a thing.

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Jul 28, 2022 13:24:33   #
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Seabastes wrote:
That lens was so great for portraits I actually wore out two of those Nikon models on assignments back in the days when I shot 200 days year as a freelancer magazine photographer. I don't remember if it was the faster of the two.The other was a Nikon 35 MM which I think was a 1.8 but those years are past. Now I enjoy two mirror less Panasonics that are like the old rangefinder Nikon models of the early 1960's but on steroids but the menu is so complicated that old age has me using the simplest settings.
That lens was so great for portraits I actually wo... (show quote)

The simplest settings are the best.

Mostly I use manual everything, to avoid unpleasant surprises. Of the "advanced" features I tend to lean on high fps burst speeds, about four frames per burst, for working at questionable shutter speeds. But even then its very simple cuz I very simply just leave it on all the time.

You see some threads titled "best setting for xxxx". My own settings are best for every "xxxx" so I never need to think any such thoughts about settings.

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Jul 28, 2022 21:18:17   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
You can't mount mirrorless cameras on dSLRs with any real practical success. Mirrorless cameras have a shorter flange-to-sensor distance than do dSLRs, so you CAN adapt most dSLR lenses to most mirrorless cameras. But going the other way does not allow the full focusing range to work.


Ah I understand! Thank you.

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Jul 28, 2022 21:23:12   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
I do like all major formats for some reasons. But the more I use Micro 4/3, the more I prefer it, for a very long list of reasons.

My iPhone has a lot more depth of field, though! Not that that's a bad or good thing... It's just a thing.
I resemble both of those statements.

Could it be the 4/3 aspect ratio is more optimized than the 3/2 ratio? It seems to me it is.

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Jul 29, 2022 00:31:38   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
I resemble both of those statements.

Could it be the 4/3 aspect ratio is more optimized than the 3/2 ratio? It seems to me it is.


It crops better to 8x10. You lose 6% of pixels instead of 20%, if I recall.

But I like it because it has multiple attributes that work for me. Others may find 3:2 works better for them.

4:3 can be better for video, since it enables both open gate recording (full 4:3 aspect ratio, crop-able to 16:9), AND anamorphic squeeze/de-squeeze.

I don't see format "wars" so much as I see multiple formats apply to different use cases. Sometimes you need a #0 Phillips screwdriver. Sometimes you need a larger one (#1, #2, #3...). They're all used for different purposes.

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