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Jul 21, 2022 23:31:59   #
sxrich
 
I did a post on composition/rule of thirds on a different site and I was disappointed at the pure disdain in mentioning the term "rules"! Responses like "rules were made to be broken", "I refuse to be restricted", "I please myself", "My creativity will be restrained"......It surprised me how little people knew about composition approaches as well as the desire to incorporate. I use rule of thirds quite often, even in portraiture. I would like to see images from others where a particular rule of composition is utilized. Here are a few - rule of thirds


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Jul 21, 2022 23:46:13   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
sxrich wrote:
I did a post on composition/rule of thirds on a different site and I was disappointed at the pure disdain in mentioning the term "rules"! Responses like "rules were made to be broken", "I refuse to be restricted", "I please myself", "My creativity will be restrained"......It surprised me how little people knew about composition approaches as well as the desire to incorporate. I use rule of thirds quite often, even in portraiture. I would like to see images from others where a particular rule of composition is utilized. Here are a few - rule of thirds
I did a post on composition/rule of thirds on a di... (show quote)


It all depends.....

https://ipoxstudios.com/10-myths-about-the-rule-of-thirds-master-composition-without-it/

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Jul 22, 2022 00:03:35   #
sxrich
 


I've seen it. I found it humerous. FWIW - One of my favorite Wyeth paintings. You didn't post a picture!





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Jul 22, 2022 00:30:00   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
sxrich wrote:
I've seen it. I found it humerous. FWIW - One of my favorite Wyeth paintings. You didn't post a picture!


"Rule"
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Jul 22, 2022 00:36:42   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Rules need to be learned in order to break them correctly.

You seem to want all to conform, well, you have a few billions humans on this planet and not one conforms with another so... Good luck.

You are neither right nor wrong, just maybe a bit too demanding on what other should/must do in order to please you... So, again, good luck.

Personally, to learn, I go deliberately the wrong way. That way, I can identify where I am lacking. Seeing other's works or concepts does nothing to me, plain indifference.

As to rule 'third' it is nothing new and certainly not the only 'rule' that addresses composition.

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Jul 22, 2022 00:36:54   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
Often this guideline does produce very pleasing images. As do the other "rules". To the extent that they assist you, great. But do not be afraid to follow whatever your gut tells you is pleasing.

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Jul 22, 2022 00:41:09   #
sxrich
 
dustie wrote:
"Rule"
---- PAS ----
point and shoot


Were they taken with a cell phone? You appeared to "fill the frame" Very creative!

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Jul 22, 2022 00:54:16   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
I've always had a "flair" for composition, so when the "rule of thirds" became apparent to me I was surprised how often it appeared in my work...and didn't! Haha, so I guess I'm one of these "if it *looks* cool" people and don't really think about it. To each!

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Jul 22, 2022 00:54:57   #
sxrich
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Rules need to be learned in order to break them correctly.

You seem to want all to conform, well, you have a few billions humans on this planet and not one conforms with another so... Good luck.

You are neither right nor wrong, just maybe a bit too demanding on what other should/must do in order to please you... So, again, good luck.

Personally, to learn, I go deliberately the wrong way. That way, I can identify where I am lacking. Seeing other's works or concepts does nothing to me, plain indifference.

As to rule 'third' it is nothing new and certainly not the only 'rule' that addresses composition.
Rules need to be learned in order to break them co... (show quote)


It was merely a post on rule of thirds with examples - never said I was right or wrong. I have no desire to control humans, so you missed the point. However, your desire to purposely go the wrong direction to identify what is lacking is a unique approach and would work well shooting a wedding..... We used to call it "not logic". Your indifference I'm sure will propel you in some direction.

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Jul 22, 2022 02:50:37   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
I am reading a book by Michael Freeman titled "On Composition". In that book I don't recall him ever using the term "rules of ...". Rather, he refers to composition as 'elements of photographic design', with composition being one of the many elements that the photographer controls to create an impactful image. Calling them "rules" only invites arguments about rules being rigid, when in fact various composition designs of a scene can illicit different but impactful responses on the viewer. Changing how you refer to compositional design might allow you to make your point without starting a side argument unrelated to your message.

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Jul 22, 2022 05:39:40   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I tend to follow the rules of composition. Aesthetically speaking the rules bring order to the image and make it pleasant to the eye. If it is necessary to break them it should be done in such a way that the image does not lose its charming, its interest to the viewer.
In a formal photographic competition the rules are strictly followed. The judges have to see a very powerful reason to admit an image that has broken those rules.

A pleasant visual design is always a good reason to attract the eye.

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Jul 22, 2022 05:42:40   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Rule of Thirds


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Jul 22, 2022 06:15:35   #
mvetrano2 Loc: Commack, NY
 
I was taught the rules, or suggestions ( rule of thirds, leading lines, etc), at the NY Institue of Photohraphy and I try and incorporate them into all of my shots whenever possible.

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Jul 22, 2022 06:39:12   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
My grandpa, who was a master smith (also a WWI and WWII soldier), always said "first learn how to make it right before you do it how it is not meant to be made" For composition, it would read "first learn the conventional rules, then find out how to break them"

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Jul 22, 2022 07:48:37   #
micolh Loc: NYC
 
sxrich wrote:
I did a post on composition/rule of thirds on a different site and I was disappointed at the pure disdain in mentioning the term "rules"! Responses like "rules were made to be broken", "I refuse to be restricted", "I please myself", "My creativity will be restrained"......It surprised me how little people knew about composition approaches as well as the desire to incorporate. I use rule of thirds quite often, even in portraiture. I would like to see images from others where a particular rule of composition is utilized. Here are a few - rule of thirds
I did a post on composition/rule of thirds on a di... (show quote)

"It surprised me how little people knew about composition approaches as well as the desire to incorporate."
People may know about the concept but are not concerned and wish to apply their "artistic" rendition. I think the 4th picture is the best of the lot.

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