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Jul 21, 2022 06:48:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
YouTube has blocked copyrighted music for years, but now they are interfering with what might be copyrighted video. The term is visual copyright. If you post something with a video included, anyone on earth can claim to own the copyright to that, and you will not receive the advertising money for your post. There is no recourse, and no contact info is provided for the claimant. An example is footage shot by NASA. No one can legally claim ownership of NASA footage, yet that has happened. The poster was denied payment because someone claimed a copyright on a bit of footage shot by NASA. YT doesn't get involved at all - no lawyers and no expense. They just send the payment to someone else.

I'm not a YouTuber, and I don't know all the details, but it sounds like another step down for YT.

If you upload a video on YouTube that contains copyright-protected material, you could end up with a claim. These claims are issued by YouTube on behalf of the companies (such as Repost) that own or represent the rights to the copyrighted audio or visual content.

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Jul 21, 2022 07:19:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

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Jul 21, 2022 07:32:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:


My thoughts, exactly!

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Jul 21, 2022 09:31:06   #
marvkaye
 
jerryc41 wrote:

I'm not a YouTuber, and I don't know all the details, but it sounds like another step down for YT.
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YouTube has an agenda dictated by Google and they stick to it religiously. They have been de-platforming patriot channels for years on one hand and on the other, monetizing sites that rip-off the content from those same channels at their new platforms and repost them on YT. I like YT for many things but for news-related content I go to Rumble and elsewhere.

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Jul 21, 2022 13:41:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
marvkaye wrote:
YouTube has an agenda dictated by Google and they stick to it religiously. They have been de-platforming patriot channels for years on one hand and on the other, monetizing sites that rip-off the content from those same channels at their new platforms and repost them on YT. I like YT for many things but for news-related content I go to Rumble and elsewhere.


Yes, it is a dirty business.

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Jul 22, 2022 07:01:00   #
edwdickinson Loc: Ardmore PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
YouTube has blocked copyrighted music for years, but now they are interfering with what might be copyrighted video. The term is visual copyright. If you post something with a video included, anyone on earth can claim to own the copyright to that, and you will not receive the advertising money for your post. There is no recourse, and no contact info is provided for the claimant. An example is footage shot by NASA. No one can legally claim ownership of NASA footage, yet that has happened. The poster was denied payment because someone claimed a copyright on a bit of footage shot by NASA. YT doesn't get involved at all - no lawyers and no expense. They just send the payment to someone else.

I'm not a YouTuber, and I don't know all the details, but it sounds like another step down for YT.

If you upload a video on YouTube that contains copyright-protected material, you could end up with a claim. These claims are issued by YouTube on behalf of the companies (such as Repost) that own or represent the rights to the copyrighted audio or visual content.
YouTube has blocked copyrighted music for years, b... (show quote)


There is some a**hole near me who made a video of publicly available photos and when someone post the photos on a FB page dedicated to those kind of photos the Sh**head complains to FB and has them taken down as copyright infringement. Douche.

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Jul 22, 2022 07:48:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
edwdickinson wrote:
There is some a**hole near me who made a video of publicly available photos and when someone post the photos on a FB page dedicated to those kind of photos the Sh**head complains to FB and has them taken down as copyright infringement. Douche.


No one wants to get into a copyright battle. People are too sensitive.

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Jul 22, 2022 08:17:08   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
edwdickinson wrote:
There is some a**hole near me who made a video of publicly available photos and when someone post the photos on a FB page dedicated to those kind of photos the Sh**head complains to FB and has them taken down as copyright infringement. Douche.


That is a huge problem. I went to great lengths to get a set of archival photos from the now defunct Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. They are in the public domain. If I post them online anyone who wishes can copy them and reuse them however they wish.. That is a little disheartening.

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Jul 22, 2022 08:49:18   #
Canisdirus
 
I'm with Youtube on this one.

People making coin off of other ppl's work.

We already have politicians...we don't need to expand that methodology.

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Jul 22, 2022 10:01:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I'm with Youtube on this one.

People making coin off of other ppl's work.


But in this case, it's just the opposite. People claim to own the copyright, and the one who posted the YT video loses his payment. As I mentioned above, no one can claim the copyright on a NASA video, but that's what has happened, and the YouTuber lost payment. YouTube doesn't get involved. It takes the easy way out and avoids lawyers and courts. There is no way for the YouTuber to fight it.

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Jul 22, 2022 11:02:33   #
Canisdirus
 
jerryc41 wrote:
But in this case, it's just the opposite. People claim to own the copyright, and the one who posted the YT video loses his payment. As I mentioned above, no one can claim the copyright on a NASA video, but that's what has happened, and the YouTuber lost payment. YouTube doesn't get involved. It takes the easy way out and avoids lawyers and courts. There is no way for the YouTuber to fight it.


There is a recourse always...court.

But the math does not work.


Of course the answer is to present original content...but does require more skill and talent.

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Jul 22, 2022 11:35:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Canisdirus wrote:
There is a recourse always...court.

But the math does not work.


Of course the answer is to present original content...but does require more skill and talent.


Have you checked the price of lawyers lately? Who would a YouTuber sue? YouTube doesn't give any info. "There is a copyright claim against your content."

Yes, staging another moon landing would require a lot of skill and talent.

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Jul 22, 2022 11:36:27   #
Canisdirus
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Have you checked the price of lawyers lately? Who would a YouTuber sue? YouTube doesn't give any info. "There is a copyright claim against your content."

Yes, staging another moon landing would require a lot of skill and talent.


Hey...lots of things in life aren't fair...just the way it is.

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Jul 22, 2022 12:04:53   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
There are a group of YouTubers known as constitutional auditors who try to provoke police into violating their rights, often by pointing a camera at them from public property, and live streaming on YouTube. In one recent video, the cops started blasting loud copyrighted music over their speakers so it would violate YouTube rules. It backfired though because it was late at night and they drew many complaints from the neighborhood for the loud music.

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Jul 22, 2022 12:16:31   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Have you checked the price of lawyers lately? Who would a YouTuber sue? YouTube doesn't give any info. "There is a copyright claim against your content."

Yes, staging another moon landing would require a lot of skill and talent.


Does this explain anything? https://www.youtube.com/howyoutubeworks/policies/copyright/#making-claims

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