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Flash adapter on R7
Jul 16, 2022 21:02:42   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I have read that an adapter is needed to use a legacy flash on the R7. I have an 550EX I intend to put on an R7 when I get it. Has anyone tried using an older flash on the R7 without an adapter?

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Jul 16, 2022 21:22:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
PHRubin wrote:
I have read that an adapter is needed to use a legacy flash on the R7. I have an 550EX I intend to put on an R7 when I get it. Has anyone tried using an older flash on the R7 without an adapter?


Page 67 of the EOS R7 would seem to say your 550EX will attached directly to the camera.

I now have only 580EX-II flash units. These have a locking mechanism on the flash when pushed into the hot shoe. I can see how these newest versions cannot be connected directly to the R7. Kind of an interesting decision by Canon. But, the EOS R7 seems to be fine for the older models.

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Jul 16, 2022 23:17:22   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
I don't know which manual Paul is looking at, but the R7 manual I've downloaded basically says you'll need a hot shoe adapter....

Canon AD-E1 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1663792-REG/canon_4943c001_ad_e1_multi_function_shoe_adapter.html/overview

The camera manual only goes back as far as the 600EX and 580EX flashes... but the same would apply to 550EX, I'm sure, since it uses essentially the same hot foot design (just has a different locking mechanism... the "dial" instead of the "lever").

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Jul 16, 2022 23:38:34   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I don't know which manual Paul is looking at, but the R7 manual I've downloaded basically says you'll need a hot shoe adapter....

Canon AD-E1 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1663792-REG/canon_4943c001_ad_e1_multi_function_shoe_adapter.html/overview

The camera manual only goes back as far as the 600EX and 580EX flashes... but the same would apply to 550EX, I'm sure, since it uses essentially the same hot foot design (just has a different locking mechanism... the "dial" instead of the "lever").
I don't know which manual Paul is looking at, but ... (show quote)


Maybe there's are review on utube that speaks to the issue directly. I couldn't find a camera review in text form that does. Nor do I have the actual equipment.

But, Canon knows all their EOS equipment, going back to 1987. Their other manuals speak to a lot more detail of all their various historic EOS compatible flash types. The text from page 69 would seem to mention only some specific models are excluded, rather than just three specific models are 'known' to the manual writers in 2022.



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Jul 17, 2022 02:23:58   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
OK - lets complicate things. I usually use a Vello off camera flash cord OCS-C1.5 which has a level lock at the hot shoe. Can this be plugged into the R7 without an adapter?

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Jul 17, 2022 02:47:46   #
User ID
 
PHRubin wrote:
OK - lets complicate things. I usually use a Vello off camera flash cord OCS-C1.5 which has a level lock at the hot shoe. Can this be plugged into the R7 without an adapter?

If you ask Canon they would likely decline to comment about nonCanon accessories.

If you ask Vello you may get no response.

If you wait to cross that bridge when you come to it, que sera sera for sure. Maybe, with good luck, some hogster has already crossed that bridge and can reply.

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Jul 17, 2022 10:01:04   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
PHRubin wrote:
OK - lets complicate things. I usually use a Vello off camera flash cord OCS-C1.5 which has a level lock at the hot shoe. Can this be plugged into the R7 without an adapter?


Why not be safe about it?
Get the adapter and no worries, stress or other such nonsense.

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Jul 17, 2022 12:47:26   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
PHRubin wrote:
I have read that an adapter is needed to use a legacy flash on the R7. I have an 550EX I intend to put on an R7 when I get it. Has anyone tried using an older flash on the R7 without an adapter?


I answered your other post about this subject several hours before you wrote this one. Maybe my answer did not relate because I use a knock off. In case you did not read all the replys to your first post on this subject,here is what I wrote.

"I also read the manual before I got the R7. I thought an adapter would be needed also. I went to a R7-R10 preview by Canon/USA at Schiller's in STL.I asked the Canon rep about that. He looked surprised, took the shoe off the flash and said, it has the 5 prongs so you should not need one.
I just tried my Yongnuo YN600EX-RT II on my R7 and it worked fine. It is a knockoff of the Canon 600EX-RT II.
Try your flash before you buy an adaptor.
Disclaimer......I do not do a lot of flash photography."

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Jul 17, 2022 13:34:42   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
User ID wrote:
If you ask Canon they would likely decline to comment about nonCanon accessories.

If you ask Vello you may get no response.

If you wait to cross that bridge when you come to it, que sera sera for sure. Maybe, with good luck, some hogster has already crossed that bridge and can reply.


Which is why I asked B&H where I placed the R7 order. I'm waiting for a response.

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Jul 17, 2022 13:37:54   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
DaveJ wrote:
I answered your other post about this subject several hours before you wrote this one. Maybe my answer did not relate because I use a knock off. In case you did not read all the replys to your first post on this subject,here is what I wrote.

"I also read the manual before I got the R7. I thought an adapter would be needed also. I went to a R7-R10 preview by Canon/USA at Schiller's in STL.I asked the Canon rep about that. He looked surprised, took the shoe off the flash and said, it has the 5 prongs so you should not need one.
I just tried my Yongnuo YN600EX-RT II on my R7 and it worked fine. It is a knockoff of the Canon 600EX-RT II.
Try your flash before you buy an adaptor.
Disclaimer......I do not do a lot of flash photography."
I answered your other post about this subject seve... (show quote)


Thanks for the response. I did read it and wasn't sure the Youngnuo was representative of my situation. I'm not even sure if the "incompatibility" is mechanical or electrical.

I do a lot of flash photography.

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Jul 17, 2022 16:54:50   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
PHRubin wrote:
OK - lets complicate things. I usually use a Vello off camera flash cord OCS-C1.5 which has a level lock at the hot shoe. Can this be plugged into the R7 without an adapter?


Who knows!

According to the R7 manual, but Canon's own off camera shoe cord cannot be directly used in the R7's hot shoe... adapter required.

BUT... they only address their current version of shoe cord: OC-E3. So earlier ones fit? I dunno, but doubt it.

It's a bit odd that according to the manual the 430EX III can be used directly. To me that flash's foot doesn't look any different from all the other flashes (personally I have three 500EX and three 580EX II, as well as several off-camera shoe cords and an ST-E2 controller).

It will be interesting to see what B&H can tell us.

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Jul 18, 2022 02:26:37   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I heard from B&H. They responded within 1 day.

Quote:
"Thank you for contacting the Sales Department at B&H Photo Video and Pro Audio.

You do not need the Canon AD-E1 Multi-Function Shoe Adapter B&H # CAOCSAADE1 to use your flash/cord with the Canon R7. I had an agent in-store test this. Would you like us to remove this item from your order?"

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