soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

I got this from one of my FB friends most of my FB friends are black Dem.
I know I’m going to get diverse responses. I also realize that the same people are going to fall on the same
side. One thing I am certain of is this, r****m is rampant in the CJ System.
Enough of my rambling and be civil lol 😂 if u can sheesh

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Personally, I think the behavior of the person being stopped will determine the approach the officers take. If I'm not mistaken, the individual on the right fired at the officer making the traffic stop. Subsequently, they did find a weapon in his vehicle. Again, if I'm not mistaken the individual on the right was taken into custody without incident. In other words, he was compliant with the officer's requests.

These are two different scenarios and probably not comparable due to the difference in the behavior of the person being approached.
--Bob

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Something does seem to be consistently out of wack.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

I'm surprised. You usually come down on the other side. The post is undeniable. Yes, there is r****m. There is r****m in government. There is r****m in the CJ system. There is r****m in the attic. And in all of it you typically come down on the wrong side. Why is this your one exception?

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Thats my thoughts as well

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Because I know for darn sure there is. Lets just say in my recent past I have met quite a few people that have had run-ins with the law. I have heard white guys tell me the crimes they committed and the sentences they got.
I said to myself if that were me my black behind would have been gone a long time.

Lets take for instance R. Kelly black R&B singer gets 30 yrs and Gshlaine Maxwell gets 20yrs for pretty much the
same thing. R. Kelly was seducing teenage girls (16) Gshlaine was acting in the capacity of a madam involving underaged girls.

When b****s and other races get equal sentencing for the same crimes and based on past criminal history then I will be satisfied. But until proven wrong beyond a shadow of doubt this is my stance.

I know there is r****m still in America but it is not as bad as it was.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Why are you defending your statement that there is r****m in the CJ system? I agreed with you. I'm more interested why you support as much r****m as you do. I'm not asking for you to defend your positions, you are allowed to feel as you do, but a bit of explanation wouldn't harm you or anyone else. It's up to you.

Whether r****m is as bad or worse than it was depends on what part of history you are referencing. I'm sure it's better than it was 50 years ago, but I think it may be worse (I believe it is) than it was 20 years ago.
You read the c*****rs, that you support, claim every day that there is no r****m in America, and that there is no white privilege, and I don't read you disputing it. Hell, I know it's true, and I'm white. You have to know they are lying.
I believe even you must know that R. Kelly was a poor example to choose. Have you read the stories of any of his victims? You have to figure that if Epstein hadn't k**led himself, Gshlaine probably wouldn't have gotten any time at all.
How long do you think Kyle Rittenhouse would have lasted if he were black?

SteveR Loc: Michigan

How did the cops know the guy they shot 60 times was black? He was wearing a ski mask.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Agreed.
Those who get shot deserve it because they are resisting arrest and frequently trying to get the officer's gun to use it on him or they have a gun or other weapon.
Every shooting of a black thug is because they are being non compliant and violent. Also they seem to have a mile long record of violence.
All anyone has to do is not resist, be compliant and sue if there cause to do so.
Lawsuits are worthless if you are dead.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

This victim had no record, was only suspected of an equipment violation, and there are still questions about the gun. Last I heard there were questions about where it was in the car, and if it had even been fired. Drive your car 60 miles an hour, and while doing so attempt to open your door enough to shoot behind you, while maintaining control of your vehicle.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

I was supporting my argument period.
R. Kelly was a sick pud when that vid came out with the 16yr old I was done from that point on.
Gshlaine may have gotten time period I think.
If Kyle Rittenhouse were black hummm that’s a hard one, but you are probably right. I still say it was self defense.
Although a while back I did read where a black man was defending himself with a gun k*****g his assailant who was white was not charged under the stand your ground laws.
It was a while back when I read it

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

I would have to agree, things get bad fast when u don’t comply.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

That’s another good point

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

We need a better class of traffic cop.

To improve its police force, New Zealand used humor to attract a whole different kind of cop.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/how-new-zealand-used-humor-reform-police/620598/

(selected paragraphs only, much more at above link)

Every year, American police officers k**l roughly 1,000 people. By comparison, New Zealand police officers k**l, on average, about eight people per decade. Even if you adjust for the differences in population size, the gap in police violence is staggering. If American officers k**led at the same rate per capita as those in New Zealand, about 50 Americans would die every year at the hands of the police.

Several years ago, Doraville, Georgia, a small town not far from Atlanta, posted a disturbing police-recruitment video on the main page of the department’s website. The video (which has since been taken down from the department’s site, but remains online) opens by flashing the Punisher logo, a reference to a fictional vigilante whose tactics routinely include kidnapping, torture, and murder. Then a military vehicle screams into view, and officers in assault gear toss smoke grenades out the hatch before briefly exiting the vehicle to shoot their targets with military-style weapons. The entire video is accompanied by the song “Die MF Die” by the heavy-metal band Dope.

Helen King, the former assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police in London, told me that authoritarian personalities are disproportionately drawn to the uniform. “If you’re a bully, a bigot, or a sexual predator, policing is a really attractive career choice,” she explained. This doesn’t mean that police officers are overwhelmingly bullies and bigots, but it does mean that many bullies and bigots like the idea of being a cop. To put it bluntly, white men with authoritarian personalities are disproportionately likely to be drawn to policing.

New Zealand recognized the potentially dangerous police self-se******n effect and decided to tackle it head-on. The national police service—a centralized body that governs policing across the country—launched a recruitment scheme designed to attract people who normally would be much less likely to consider becoming an officer.

In one of the comedic recruitment videos, police officers chase an unseen perpetrator. Two women—both from ethnic minorities—kick off the video by doing flips and barrel rolls through a warehouse. A Sikh officer bursts through a door, followed by a female officer turning to the camera and telling recruits that they can make a real difference. Another officer spells out whom they want to apply: “those who care about others and their communities!” He sprints past an old man crossing the street at a glacial pace, then doubles back to help him. After a series of amusing gags, the cops catch up to the perpetrator: a cute little border collie with a handbag in its mouth. “Do you care enough to be a cop?” flashes on-screen. The video went v***l. It’s been viewed nearly 2 million times; there are 5 million New Zealanders.

The point was clear: It’s easier to hire good apples than it is to train bad apples to behave better.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Open the window.