Guns
Jul 6, 2022 23:10:54 #
A rather here nor there question to do with gun laws. I wonder if the signers of the Bill Of Rights gave any thought to what the profound consequenses might be should future gun makers create full auto, high capacity, rapid fire rifles. Most likely not. Far as I'm concerened, the NRA needs to step up to the plate and start taking responsibility and promoting changes as to how we can best deal with the issue. How can things change for the better when we continue to let corporate America dictate policies over what is best for We The People.
Jul 7, 2022 05:38:53 #
usnret wrote:
A rather here nor there question to do with gun la... (show quote)
What you are not realizing is that the second amendment doesn't give us any right at all but rather what it does do is to prevent the government from reducing that right.
Jul 7, 2022 08:10:33 #
A "Right" doesn't come from government and government shouldn't be allowed to convert it into a "Privilege"
Jul 7, 2022 08:41:45 #
alberio wrote:
A "Right" doesn't come from government and government shouldn't be allowed to convert it into a "Privilege"
Exactly! A privilege can be taken away by the government. Driver's License is one example.
Jul 7, 2022 08:52:21 #
Watosh wrote:
Exactly! A privilege can be taken away by the government. Driver's License is one example.
We don't need no stinkin license. 🤪🤪🤪
Jul 7, 2022 08:52:46 #
So should the same criteria be applied to free speech and high-speed internet? T***sportation and jets? Other evolved processes? Or is this just another case of suggesting foolishness toward the Second Amendment?
Jul 7, 2022 11:11:33 #
usnret wrote:
A rather here nor there question to do with gun la... (show quote)
Who in your mind is the "corporate America dictating policies"? The last time I looked most of corporate America's CEOs were Democrats (Amazon, Apple, GM, Disney, FB, Wall Street, etc.). And yes, they have been promoting and dictating the Woke culture of the Demoncrats.
Jul 7, 2022 11:44:33 #
usnret wrote:
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Our founding fathers may not have known what modern weapons would look like, but there were already repeating guns when they wrote the second amendment. More importantly, their writing outside the constitution makes it clear that they wanted to ensure that civilians had military grade weapons. We have already stripped that right away when we made it virtually impossible to own automatic weapons. Now the left wants to take away semi-automatic as well.
But, the real crazy thing you have posted is you are railing against corporate America, but the NRA is not corporate America.
Most of corporate America is woke and on the left politically. So, although I agree with you that companies like Disney are a problem for American citizens, your post does not make sense.
Jul 7, 2022 12:14:48 #
Jul 7, 2022 12:23:05 #
usnret wrote:
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Why does everyone think the NRA is the only association that should take responsibility for gun control? If you place those same requests on BGOA, are you considered r****t?
Jul 7, 2022 12:44:26 #
usnret wrote:
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Why don't your figure out how to fix a society that has generated the sick mo fks that commit these crimes and quit laying blame elsewhere.
Jul 7, 2022 14:40:38 #
usnret wrote:
A rather here nor there question to do with gun la... (show quote)
The problem is with bad people and bad choices. Just like the demand for a******n (98% of the time) begins with a choice, loading, leveling and firing a gun is a choice. The problem with both a******n and gun controls is that they punish people NOT responsible for the choice that created the danger.
No ‘solution’ will affect only the change intended. Drugs are illegal, yet they are everywhere, and the high price they garner ensures that there will be crime-a-plenty to keep their flow intact.
Some groups who study these things have concluded that defensive display of firearms prevents half a million (some minor, some not) crimes per year with no shots fired. Do we have to see assault, robbery, rape, etc explode into a real p******c to test the effect of disarming only the law abiding citizen? I think not, especially in a time when almost every large city is running understaffed and underfunded police departments.
Jul 7, 2022 20:03:12 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
usnret wrote:
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I don't often agree with you, but when you are right, you are right.
Jul 7, 2022 20:04:25 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
alberio wrote:
A "Right" doesn't come from government and government shouldn't be allowed to convert it into a "Privilege"
And the lord said, let there be guns.
Jul 7, 2022 20:06:44 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
chikid68 wrote:
What you are not realizing is that the second amendment doesn't give us any right at all but rather what it does do is to prevent the government from reducing that right.
Other than the second amendment, what makes it a right?
The bill of rights was never meant to be a suicide pact.
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