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Jul 5, 2022 13:55:23   #
kitrn23
 
I am a long time user of LR, simple edits, shoot raw. Do not understand use of ACR. I have d/l it but never used it. Need some help. Win 10 user

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Jul 5, 2022 13:58:37   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
kitrn23 wrote:
I am a long time user of LR, simple edits, shoot raw. Do not understand use of ACR. I have d/l it but never used it. Need some help. Win 10 user


As an LR user, you don't need -- nor need to know -- ACR. Adobe Camera Raw exists still simply to support those who refuse to learn and use the far, far superior Lightroom prior to moving into PhotoShop. Lightroom software they pay monthly to use. All of the programming of ACR sits behind / inside LR, with LR's superior and enhanced and feature-rich user interface.

Now back to regular programming.

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Jul 5, 2022 14:09:20   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
As an LR user, you don't need -- nor need to know -- ACR. Adobe Camera Raw exists still simply to support those who refuse to learn and use the far, far superior Lightroom prior to moving into PhotoShop. Lightroom software they pay monthly to use. All of the programming of ACR sits behind / inside LR, with LR's superior and enhanced and feature-rich user interface.

Now back to regular programming.

What chg_canon is trying to say is that as a long time user of LR you have been using ACR all along. That's what LR uses to edit. Dump the DL'ed ACR, and just keep using LR. If you aren't a subscriber to LR/PS become one now!

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Jul 5, 2022 14:09:23   #
kitrn23
 
Thanks so very much. I will not concern myself with the program

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Jul 6, 2022 06:27:44   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
ACR is the engine in LR and PS that reads the raw images. It updates with your subscription of PS and LR.

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Jul 6, 2022 10:13:43   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
If comfortable in LR no need to venture into ACR. However, Paul's gratuitious denegration of ACR users has no place here.

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Jul 6, 2022 10:22:25   #
Just Shoot Me Loc: Ithaca, NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
As an LR user, you don't need -- nor need to know -- ACR. Adobe Camera Raw exists still simply to support those who refuse to learn and use the far, far superior Lightroom prior to moving into PhotoShop. Lightroom software they pay monthly to use. All of the programming of ACR sits behind / inside LR, with LR's superior and enhanced and feature-rich user interface.

Now back to regular programming.


Paul, you should be our daily moderator.LOL

Ron

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Jul 6, 2022 10:24:33   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
I have never ventured into Lightroom, never spent the time to use it or perhaps just too stubborn and/or stupid. Rather I use Bridge for culling and organization and ACR for general adjustments then Photoshop as necessary. Considering the “engines” behind Lightroom and ACR are the same or similar, for you experts on Lightroom, please give me a couple of examples of the benefits of Lightroom that I am missing compared to my typical workflow. I always wonder whether taking the effort to learn Lightroom is worth it to me. Remember, I am really stubborn (perhaps a fault).

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Jul 6, 2022 10:57:00   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Nalu wrote:
I have never ventured into Lightroom, never spent the time to use it or perhaps just too stubborn and/or stupid. Rather I use Bridge for culling and organization and ACR for general adjustments then Photoshop as necessary. Considering the “engines” behind Lightroom and ACR are the same or similar, for you experts on Lightroom, please give me a couple of examples of the benefits of Lightroom that I am missing compared to my typical workflow. I always wonder whether taking the effort to learn Lightroom is worth it to me. Remember, I am really stubborn (perhaps a fault).
I have never ventured into Lightroom, never spent ... (show quote)


ANS: Syncing and presets.

I don't use ACR enough to know how it works today, but if my assumption / understanding is accurate, you can't "sync" the RAW edits of one image across all the similar images. So, you're stuck editing each image individually. By presets, I don't mean the 'photography style' versions you can buy online. Rather, I mean presets that will apply a common look and feel to my images, using predefined Noise, Sharpening, Clarity and Saturation settings applied to my images between the catalog import step and the detailed image-specific editing. LR Presets being a way to 'automate' the application of a standard inventory of settings to images.

LR is particularly helpful to the high(er) volume RAW shooter. You might find Bridge remains your preferred culling tool. As a standalone LR6 user, I used another product (FastRawViewer) for culling prior to importing into LR. When I end up with a stretch of similar images, all seemingly candidates as 'best' of the sequences, such as below, I edit one and then sync those setting across all the images. I then use LR's compare tool that let me look at the 1:1 pixel-level details of the two images at a time until I find the one best keeper, an example compare shown in the second screen capture.


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Jul 6, 2022 11:21:10   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
[quote=CHG_CANON]ANS: Syncing and presets.

I don't use ACR enough to know how it works today, but if my assumption / understanding is accurate, you can't "sync" the RAW edits of one image across all the similar images. So, you're stuck editing each image individually. By presets, I don't mean the 'photography style' versions you can buy online.

Update for Paul. Most ACR users pair it with Bridge. Using Bridge's "Develop Settings" and then "Previous conversion" you can sync hundreds of images to the global edits just made to one image. Note, this does not extend to any local adjustments.

And because there is always more than one way to do things, you can also open a large number of images in ACR
s filmstrip mode, edit one, sync to all (using a menu with a huge number of potential global attributes) and save to all.

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Jul 6, 2022 11:27:07   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Orphoto wrote:
Update for Paul. Most ACR users pair it with Bridge. Using Bridge's "Develop Settings" and then "Previous conversion" you can sync hundreds of images to the global edits just made to one image. Note, this does not extend to any local adjustments.

And because there is always more than one way to do things, you can also open a large number of images in ACR
s filmstrip mode, edit one, sync to all (using a menu with a huge number of potential global attributes) and save to all.
Update for Paul. Most ACR users pair it with Brid... (show quote)


Good, but the issue remains: you pay for superior LR software that includes these features and more, but then don't use it?

You mention local settings. These sync in LR. So, I might clone away a problem that exists in a few consecutive images, doing the work on 1 and syncing that update to all the similar.

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Jul 6, 2022 12:36:53   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
kitrn23 wrote:
I am a long time user of LR, simple edits, shoot raw. Do not understand use of ACR. I have d/l it but never used it. Need some help. Win 10 user


Lightroom, Photoshop, and Bridge share the same "engine" that is in ACR. As others have pointed out, if you are a LR user, you are effectively an ACR user. In Photoshop, ACR shows up in 2 ways. First, if you edit a RAW file, ACR opens to allow you to make basically the same kind of edits you would have made in LR. Second, ACR can be accessed in PS as a filter to make additional edits. ACR cannon be launched by itself; it needs a host program.

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Jul 6, 2022 19:51:01   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
ANS: Syncing and presets.

I don't use ACR enough to know how it works today, but if my assumption / understanding is accurate, you can't "sync" the RAW edits of one image across all the similar images. So, you're stuck editing each image individually. By presets, I don't mean the 'photography style' versions you can buy online. Rather, I mean presets that will apply a common look and feel to my images, using predefined Noise, Sharpening, Clarity and Saturation settings applied to my images between the catalog import step and the detailed image-specific editing. LR Presets being a way to 'automate' the application of a standard inventory of settings to images.

LR is particularly helpful to the high(er) volume RAW shooter. You might find Bridge remains your preferred culling tool. As a standalone LR6 user, I used another product (FastRawViewer) for culling prior to importing into LR. When I end up with a stretch of similar images, all seemingly candidates as 'best' of the sequences, such as below, I edit one and then sync those setting across all the images. I then use LR's compare tool that let me look at the 1:1 pixel-level details of the two images at a time until I find the one best keeper, an example compare shown in the second screen capture.
ANS: Syncing and presets. br br I don't use ACR e... (show quote)


Sorry but yes you can "sync" the RAW edits of one image across all the similar images. I do it all the time particularly useful when importing images to be stitched single row or multiple rows do all your edits even lens correction on all images . Just choose the images in bridge and export to photoshop edit one image in ACR right click the image you worked on , in the drop down drop down menu click select all then click SYNC settings and all settings are done to each raw file . Photoshop preferences must be set up for opening all images in ACR first .

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Jul 6, 2022 20:03:07   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Well, I have broad shoulders and not adverse to ridicule so I have to say I LOVE ACR and have no use or desire for Lightroom... Been using it for years and am very happy as a very low volume user. Suits my mediocre needs and is easy to use.... Too old to be convinced so just " Pass on by, meet on the corner ".

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Jul 8, 2022 01:53:33   #
Nickaroo
 
MrBob wrote:
Well, I have broad shoulders and not adverse to ridicule so I have to say I LOVE ACR and have no use or desire for Lightroom... Been using it for years and am very happy as a very low volume user. Suits my mediocre needs and is easy to use.... Too old to be convinced so just " Pass on by, meet on the corner ".


Well, I use ACR and have Zero Problems. I shoot College (University of Michigan) and Our 4 Pathetic Pro Teams, but I also do a lot of Wildlife and Birds in Flight or Stationary if it is a Lazy Morning for the Herons and Egrets. I put everything through ACR and I have never encountered any problems. Now, a Friend of Mine Moose Peterson always develops a Professional Edit and Wallhangers by using ACR . I have the entire Adobe Creative Cloud Plan at $10.99 a month, So I have all of these tools at my disposal and I'am Supposed to listen to CHG_CANON tell us that it is inferior to Lightroom Classic CC? Mind You that He has Stated in other UHH Threads that He uses Adobe Lightroom 6. He is very knowledgeable about the Adobe Creative Suite, but why does he waste His own time with LRC 6? and just for the Record, the only Guy that I have seen Rival His Strut is Our Own Steve Perry and He has the program going places.

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