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Jul 2, 2022 18:59:12   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
rmalarz wrote:
Erich, TriX is correct in that each camera is different, even the same model camera may have slightly different capabilities. Controlled testing is the only way to determine where your camera gives up capturing details on the high end. Personally, I wish it were easy to change from one Zone to another by simple shutter speed or aperture change. Unfortunately, it's not that simple.

Testing is the method to determine where that failure point is. At that point, one can determine the number of Zones per stop. One of my cameras takes just over 2-1/2 stops to reach a highlight boundary that is unretrievable. This means that 5 Zones are covered by 2-1/2 stops. Thus, if I want to use specular reflections in the scene for metering, I can increase the exposure by just over 2-1/2 stops. If I spot meter on the brightest part of the scene with visible texture, I'll increase my exposure suitably to place that part of the scene in Zone VIII.

In processing, I'll use the histogram to make the exposure adjustment to compensate for the additional exposure during the initial capture. But, without testing it's a crap shoot as to how much additional exposure to give an image at capture time. I use this method 99% of the time when doing digital photography.
--Bob
Erich, TriX is correct in that each camera is diff... (show quote)


Sounds a bit complicated; but your explanation is clear and very understandable. I'm going to have to do that experimentation and then I should, as you point out, pick the zone I want for the highlights. Cool, good information.
Erich

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Jul 2, 2022 19:06:10   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
What metering is best, spot, matrix or center weighted???

Don


Please take this with a grain of salt, I don't pretend to be an expert; but I can explain how I meter.

With my digital camera, I almost always have the camera set at matrix. This is especially true where lighting across the scene is relatively even.

I also shoot film; and I rarely use the light meter in the camera, if indeed, the camera even has one. Instead I use a handheld spot meter. I measure the brightest area with texture that I want to expose, then I measure the darkest area with detail. That gives me a range, and my meter will tell me how many stops that range is. Then I often just let the meter average out the exposure and I go with that. Or, as explained in the above post, I can choose what zone I want to use for a particular area of the scene. (by "zone" we are referring to the Ansel Adams zone system that is pretty well explain by making a Google search of "zone system metering". I hope that helps you a bit.
Erich

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Jul 2, 2022 19:57:57   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
Thanks for the reply Erich. Will do some practicing.

Don

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Jul 2, 2022 21:30:53   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Don, spot metering. Spot the brightest part of the scene.
—Bob
PAR4DCR wrote:
What metering is best, spot, matrix or center weighted???

Don

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Jul 2, 2022 22:09:03   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
Thanks for the reply Erich. Will do some practicing.

Don


I've said it a thousand times, this is a hobby where you never stop learning. Have fun with it.
Erich

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Jul 3, 2022 10:05:02   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
rmalarz wrote:
Don, spot metering. Spot the brightest part of the scene.
—Bob


Thanks for the reply Bob.

Don

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