"A credible argument for Trump supports to back someone else in 2024": "The House select committee on J*** 6 has failed to dampen support among Republican v**ers for Donald Trump.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

"The House select committee on J*** 6 has failed to dampen support among Republican v**ers for Donald Trump. Fifty-three percent of Republicans say they would support Trump if he ran again in 2024. They believe that he was a great president and that he was treated unfairly by the media and the political establishment, which tried to delegitimize and destroy him with false accusations of collusion with Russia. Many accept Trump’s claims that the 2020 e******n was s****n. No bombshell revelations from the J*** 6 c*******e will dissuade them from supporting him.

But is there an argument that might persuade Republican primary v**ers to nominate someone else? Here is one that could do so: If Trump wins, he can serve for only four years — whereas any other Republican could serve for eight.

Whenever a new president is elected, his supporters anticipate the start of an eight-year presidency. There is a good reason for that. Though presidents are elected to four-year terms, most of those who took office over the past three decades ended up serving for eight. The three presidents who preceded Trump — Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama — each served two full terms. (And before that, George H.W. Bush was arguably elected to serve a third Reagan term.)

James Hohmann: The latest GOP primary results had that bad-car-accident feel
But if Trump were to win back the White House, he would be limited to four years — making him a lame duck from his first day in office. Ask yourself: Why does President Biden, who is obviously struggling under the burdens of his office, get irked when Democrats suggest he not run for ree******n? Because without the prospect of a second term, his presidency would be hobbled. The second Biden were to declare he was not running, the jockeying to replace him would begin, and his ability to get his agenda through would be c*********d. Even if Biden does not end up seeking ree******n, he needs to keep up the appearance that he might.

But Trump could not do that. Why would Republicans nominate someone who is constitutionally barred from seeking another term? A four-year presidency would cede a major advantage to the left in 2028. The power of incumbency is enormous. In the past 12 p**********l e******ns with incumbent candidates, incumbents won eight times, while just four — Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush and Trump — lost.
David Von Drehle: Ron DeSantis's snub of Trump is a 2024 challenge

Part of the reason is that while a p**********l candidate can only make promises, a sitting president controls the levers of power — and thus has the ability to deliver concrete results for key constituencies. The president commands an unparalleled bully pulpit. He has already won the office once, so he has a presumption of victory. Barring some catastrophe (or, in

Biden’s case, serial catastrophes), the e******n is his to lose.
It makes no sense to cede all those advantages and let Democrats contest an open seat they are much more likely to win after just four years. Besides, it will take more than four years to dig our country out of the mess Biden has created. The next Republican president will have to tamp down the worst inflation in four decades, the worst crime wave since the 1990s and the worst border crisis in American history. He — or she — will have to restore U.S. energy independence, our economic vitality and our credibility on the world stage. Any one of these would be an enormous challenge in a single term; but achieving them all in four years would be all but impossible. It’s at least an eight-year job.
Perry Bacon: Democrats are having a 2024 mini-primary right now

If Democrats take back the presidency after four years, they could easily undo any progress the next Republican president makes in his or her first term — just like they wiped out so much of Trump’s progress in a matter of months. The United States simply cannot afford that.

Attacking Trump’s character won’t move Republican v**ers. But a Republican challenger can credibly say: I love Donald Trump. He was a great president. I agree with his agenda. We’ll both bring you the same policies. The difference is: He can deliver them for only one term, and I could do it for two. Why would we risk handing the White House back to Democrats four years from now, when we could hold it for eight?"

Marc A Theissen

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Kmgw9v wrote:

"The House select committee on J*** 6 has failed to dampen support among Republican v**ers for Donald Trump. Fifty-three percent of Republicans say they would support Trump if he ran again in 2024. They believe that he was a great president and that he was treated unfairly by the media and the political establishment, which tried to delegitimize and destroy him with false accusations of collusion with Russia. Many accept Trump’s claims that the 2020 e******n was s****n. No bombshell revelations from the J*** 6 c*******e will dissuade them from supporting him.

But is there an argument that might persuade Republican primary v**ers to nominate someone else? Here is one that could do so: If Trump wins, he can serve for only four years — whereas any other Republican could serve for eight.

Whenever a new president is elected, his supporters anticipate the start of an eight-year presidency. There is a good reason for that. Though presidents are elected to four-year terms, most of those who took office over the past three decades ended up serving for eight. The three presidents who preceded Trump — Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama — each served two full terms. (And before that, George H.W. Bush was arguably elected to serve a third Reagan term.)

James Hohmann: The latest GOP primary results had that bad-car-accident feel
But if Trump were to win back the White House, he would be limited to four years — making him a lame duck from his first day in office. Ask yourself: Why does President Biden, who is obviously struggling under the burdens of his office, get irked when Democrats suggest he not run for ree******n? Because without the prospect of a second term, his presidency would be hobbled. The second Biden were to declare he was not running, the jockeying to replace him would begin, and his ability to get his agenda through would be c*********d. Even if Biden does not end up seeking ree******n, he needs to keep up the appearance that he might.

But Trump could not do that. Why would Republicans nominate someone who is constitutionally barred from seeking another term? A four-year presidency would cede a major advantage to the left in 2028. The power of incumbency is enormous. In the past 12 p**********l e******ns with incumbent candidates, incumbents won eight times, while just four — Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush and Trump — lost.
David Von Drehle: Ron DeSantis's snub of Trump is a 2024 challenge

Part of the reason is that while a p**********l candidate can only make promises, a sitting president controls the levers of power — and thus has the ability to deliver concrete results for key constituencies. The president commands an unparalleled bully pulpit. He has already won the office once, so he has a presumption of victory. Barring some catastrophe (or, in

Biden’s case, serial catastrophes), the e******n is his to lose.
It makes no sense to cede all those advantages and let Democrats contest an open seat they are much more likely to win after just four years. Besides, it will take more than four years to dig our country out of the mess Biden has created. The next Republican president will have to tamp down the worst inflation in four decades, the worst crime wave since the 1990s and the worst border crisis in American history. He — or she — will have to restore U.S. energy independence, our economic vitality and our credibility on the world stage. Any one of these would be an enormous challenge in a single term; but achieving them all in four years would be all but impossible. It’s at least an eight-year job.
Perry Bacon: Democrats are having a 2024 mini-primary right now

If Democrats take back the presidency after four years, they could easily undo any progress the next Republican president makes in his or her first term — just like they wiped out so much of Trump’s progress in a matter of months. The United States simply cannot afford that.

Attacking Trump’s character won’t move Republican v**ers. But a Republican challenger can credibly say: I love Donald Trump. He was a great president. I agree with his agenda. We’ll both bring you the same policies. The difference is: He can deliver them for only one term, and I could do it for two. Why would we risk handing the White House back to Democrats four years from now, when we could hold it for eight?"

Marc A Theissen

"The House select committee on J*** 6 has fai... (show quote)

The *little red hat in 2024. "Making Quid Pro Quo Great Again"

* still made in China.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Kmgw9v wrote:

"The House select committee on J*** 6 has failed to dampen support among Republican v**ers for Donald Trump. Fifty-three percent of Republicans say they would support Trump if he ran again in 2024. They believe that he was a great president and that he was treated unfairly by the media and the political establishment, which tried to delegitimize and destroy him with false accusations of collusion with Russia. Many accept Trump’s claims that the 2020 e******n was s****n. No bombshell revelations from the J*** 6 c*******e will dissuade them from supporting him.

But is there an argument that might persuade Republican primary v**ers to nominate someone else? Here is one that could do so: If Trump wins, he can serve for only four years — whereas any other Republican could serve for eight.

Whenever a new president is elected, his supporters anticipate the start of an eight-year presidency. There is a good reason for that. Though presidents are elected to four-year terms, most of those who took office over the past three decades ended up serving for eight. The three presidents who preceded Trump — Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama — each served two full terms. (And before that, George H.W. Bush was arguably elected to serve a third Reagan term.)

James Hohmann: The latest GOP primary results had that bad-car-accident feel
But if Trump were to win back the White House, he would be limited to four years — making him a lame duck from his first day in office. Ask yourself: Why does President Biden, who is obviously struggling under the burdens of his office, get irked when Democrats suggest he not run for ree******n? Because without the prospect of a second term, his presidency would be hobbled. The second Biden were to declare he was not running, the jockeying to replace him would begin, and his ability to get his agenda through would be c*********d. Even if Biden does not end up seeking ree******n, he needs to keep up the appearance that he might.

But Trump could not do that. Why would Republicans nominate someone who is constitutionally barred from seeking another term? A four-year presidency would cede a major advantage to the left in 2028. The power of incumbency is enormous. In the past 12 p**********l e******ns with incumbent candidates, incumbents won eight times, while just four — Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush and Trump — lost.
David Von Drehle: Ron DeSantis's snub of Trump is a 2024 challenge

Part of the reason is that while a p**********l candidate can only make promises, a sitting president controls the levers of power — and thus has the ability to deliver concrete results for key constituencies. The president commands an unparalleled bully pulpit. He has already won the office once, so he has a presumption of victory. Barring some catastrophe (or, in

Biden’s case, serial catastrophes), the e******n is his to lose.
It makes no sense to cede all those advantages and let Democrats contest an open seat they are much more likely to win after just four years. Besides, it will take more than four years to dig our country out of the mess Biden has created. The next Republican president will have to tamp down the worst inflation in four decades, the worst crime wave since the 1990s and the worst border crisis in American history. He — or she — will have to restore U.S. energy independence, our economic vitality and our credibility on the world stage. Any one of these would be an enormous challenge in a single term; but achieving them all in four years would be all but impossible. It’s at least an eight-year job.
Perry Bacon: Democrats are having a 2024 mini-primary right now

If Democrats take back the presidency after four years, they could easily undo any progress the next Republican president makes in his or her first term — just like they wiped out so much of Trump’s progress in a matter of months. The United States simply cannot afford that.

Attacking Trump’s character won’t move Republican v**ers. But a Republican challenger can credibly say: I love Donald Trump. He was a great president. I agree with his agenda. We’ll both bring you the same policies. The difference is: He can deliver them for only one term, and I could do it for two. Why would we risk handing the White House back to Democrats four years from now, when we could hold it for eight?"

Marc A Theissen

"The House select committee on J*** 6 has fai... (show quote)

more daily b00 hoo!!

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

wilpharm wrote:

more daily b00 hoo!!

“The article is from a staunch Trump supporter, with the Republican Party’s best interest at heart.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Kmgw9v wrote:

“The article is from a staunch Trump supporter, with the Republican Party’s best interest at heart.

still your daily boo hoo..TDS

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

If Trump is re-elected, he can only serve 4 years (unless he succeeds in changing the rules). If another GOP candidate, like DeSantis, is elected, the Republicans might keep him in office for 8 years.
Does that make a difference to Trump people? That is the point of the article by Theissen, a Republican.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Kmgw9v wrote:

If Trump is re-elected, he can only serve 4 years (unless he succeeds in changing the rules). If another GOP candidate, like DeSantis, is elected, the Republicans might keep him in office for 8 years.
Does that make a difference to Trump people? That is the point of the article by Theissen, a Republican.

It does for me, that's one reason I would support DeSantis over Trump.

btbg

Kmgw9v wrote:

“The article is from a staunch Trump supporter, with the Republican Party’s best interest at heart.

I'm surprised that you posted an article from someone who states that Trump made good policy decisions and on balance was a good president.

I agree with much of what Thielsen says, but I'm supporting Trump in 2024 just to stick it to the people who have been out to get him for more than five years now. It would serve the corrupt democrats and media right if Trump is back in office.

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

I'm hoping that DeSantis gets the nomination and Trump, in a typical fit of rage, runs as a 3rd party candidate (the Trumpian Party). This would cripple the Republican Party and give them what they deserve for their support of a wannabe dictator who only cares about himself.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

btbg wrote:

I'm surprised that you posted an article from someone who states that Trump made good policy decisions and on balance was a good president.

I agree with much of what Thielsen says, but I'm supporting Trump in 2024 just to stick it to the people who have been out to get him for more than five years now. It would serve the corrupt democrats and media right if Trump is back in office.

V****g out of spite against the democrats is probably not good policy. We know you think that Trump can do no wrong, but what is best for the party—a lame duck four year president, with lots of baggage; or a two term President who will be best to advance conservative ideas? I am not a Republican, but with all we know about Trump, he is not a winner.
I read Republican opinions and sometimes post those with valid points.

btbg

Kmgw9v wrote:

V****g out of spite against the democrats is probably not good policy. We know you think that Trump can do no wrong, but what is best for the party—a lame duck four year president, with lots of baggage; or a two term President who will be best to advance conservative ideas? I am not a Republican, but with all we know about Trump, he is not a winner.
I read Republican opinions and sometimes post those with valid points.

I don't even like Trump. I didn't v**e for him in 2016, I v**ed third party. I wouldn't have v**ed for him in 2020 if there was a better choice. But, I will v**e for him now because he has been treated horribly unfairly and the people who have done that to him deserve anything they get.

I agree that the writer has a valid point. At this time I just don't care. I have had enough of what the press and democrats have caused. Sometimes you have to take a stand just because and this is one of those times. Ask yourself this simple question - were you better off under Trump or under Biden? That should be enough said.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

btbg wrote:

I don't even like Trump. I didn't v**e for him in ... (show quote)

btbg - "But, I will v**e for him now because he has been treated horribly unfairly and the people who have done that to him deserve anything they get."

Thanks for that. I'm beginning to understand the depth of the Trumpista 5th Ave imperative ... "Own The Libs!!"

Trump is the leader of a failed c**p ... people get jailed and shot for that all the time.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

btbg wrote:

I don't even like Trump. I didn't v**e for him in ... (show quote)

Trump was born with a gold spoon in his mouth babbling on about how deprived he is. I didn't believe all that "they are picking on me" would play. Who would be dumb enough to believe it? I guess I have my answer.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

thom w wrote:

Trump was born with a gold spoon in his mouth babbling on about how deprived he is. I didn't believe all that "they are picking on me" would play. Who would be dumb enough to believe it? I guess I have my answer.

How many times have we all heard the trademark 5th Ave bleat? "It's very unfair to me!"

btbg

Texcaster wrote:

How many times have we all heard the trademark 5th Ave bleat? "It's very unfair to me!"

Well, we know that Hillary paid for the evidence that was used to get the FISA warrant on Carter Paige and led to spying on the Trump campaign. We know that the Russia, Russia, Russia collusion thing was a h**x. We know that the only person who forced Ukraine to engage in a quid pro quo action was Biden, and we know that the 1*6 c*******e is a farce that is not even trying to find the facts. So, we know that they are picking on Trump. Add to that we know that the media kept a running total of Trump's alleged lies, but isn't even questioning Biden's lies, so we know that the media is also doing it.

It has nothing to do with loyalty to Trump. But, I'm not alone. Today there was a poll released and it shows Trump with a 5 percent lead over Biden if the two run against each other in 2024, so that means a whole lot of other people agree with me.