"Trump's dominance might end with a wimper, not a bang.": "Pollsters, pundits and Republican operatives have long insisted that the House J*** 6 c*******e’s hearings won’t change...

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

"Pollsters, pundits and Republican operatives have long insisted that the House J*** 6 c*******e’s hearings won’t change v**ers’ minds, largely because Republican v**ers deep in the right-wing media cocoon are ignoring the hearings. But there’s evidence the “nothing matters” crowd is wrong.

For starters, polling shows increased interest in prosecuting defeated former president Donald Trump. Even before the committee’s blockbuster hearings last week — which featured damning testimony from former Justice Department officials in the Trump administration, Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R), and Georgia e******n workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss — the percentage of Americans who thought Trump should be charged with a crime was rising. An ABC News-Ipsos poll found that 58 percent of Americans agreed with that earlier this month, compared with 52 percent who said the same in April.

Plus, the right-wing media bubble might not block out exposure to the hearings’ findings entirely. Fox News host Brian Kilmeade let on that Trump’s lawyers never came up with evidence of v***r f***d. He also called Trump “unhinged.” And during the network’s coverage last Thursday, Bret Baier remarked on the fact that the hearings featured officials “who again were working for President Trump, [and] stood up saying, ‘we have an oath to the Constitution.’ ” (Disclaimer: I am an MSNBC contributor.) While some v**ers might not have tuned in to watch the proceedings live, coverage is all over social media. It’s hard to ignore the hearings entirely.

Certainly, MAGA-rally-attending conspiracy theorists are not going to be swayed by any of that. But a mainstream Republican reading an article in, say, the Wall Street Journal will surely absorb the enormity of the evidence against Trump.

These v**ers — the Republicans who convinced themselves Trump was preferable to “socialist” Democrats or who believe Democrats are out to pollute children’s mind with critical race theory — are crucial. For them, the choice might now be Trump or someone who h**es Democrats as much as they do but can spare them from Trump’s obsession with 2020.

Trump’s likely 2024 opponents must be licking their chops. As Politico recently reported, an adviser to Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis characterized the hearings as a “continuation of the exhausting circus that surrounds Trump.” The DeSantis adviser insists that big-money donors (who are presumably more rational that the average MAGA conspiratorialist) have become “s**k of the s---show.” That helps to explain the anecdotal evidence that DeSantis provides an escape route for Republicans looking for someone “like Trump but less crazy.”

Sarah Longwell, Republican strategist and head of Republican V**ers Against Trump, has conducted two focus groups among Republican v**ers since the hearings began. She tells me that for the first time ever, “zero people in either group wanted Trump to run again in 2024.” She explains: “I’ve conducted dozens and dozens of focus groups with Trump v**ers since J*** 6, and almost uniformly roughly half the group or more wants to see Trump run again. So while two groups with nobody wanting Trump to run again isn’t exactly a trend, it is a divergence from what had been an incredibly consistent finding.” She adds that the hearings are reminding v**ers of “all the baggage that comes with Trump. … They want to move on.” She also notes that there is consistently rising interest in DeSantis.

Indeed, some Republican operatives now comically insist that the hearings (which no one was supposed to watch) might deliver Republicans a “better” candidate than Trump for 2024. That’s an implicit concession that the hearings are making some difference and are bad for Trump.

Of course, swindled people do not like to admit they were swindled. Most Republicans are not going to tell pollsters they now disapprove of Trump or that the Democrats were right about 2020. They are not going to finally acknowledge that the “big lie” was just that — a lie. But many more Republicans might be amenable to finding someone who does not appear unhinged and did not try to use the presidency to reverse an e******n outcome.

The J*** 6 c*******e shows no sign of interest in the downstream impact of the hearings. Its members are there to set the record straight; to ferret out evidence of possibly criminal activity; to identify who enabled Trump and who stood up to him; and, finally, to draft recommendations to prevent another c**p attempt in 2024.
Nevertheless, if Trump ends up appearing washed up and struggling to pursue the presidency, that would also be a boon to democracy."

Jennifer Rubin

nathanweddings

Thank you!

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Kmgw9v wrote:

"Pollsters, pundits and Republican operatives have long insisted that the House J*** 6 c*******e’s hearings won’t change v**ers’ minds, largely because Republican v**ers deep in the right-wing media cocoon are ignoring the hearings. But there’s evidence the “nothing matters” crowd is wrong.

For starters, polling shows increased interest in prosecuting defeated former president Donald Trump. Even before the committee’s blockbuster hearings last week — which featured damning testimony from former Justice Department officials in the Trump administration, Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R), and Georgia e******n workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss — the percentage of Americans who thought Trump should be charged with a crime was rising. An ABC News-Ipsos poll found that 58 percent of Americans agreed with that earlier this month, compared with 52 percent who said the same in April.

Plus, the right-wing media bubble might not block out exposure to the hearings’ findings entirely. Fox News host Brian Kilmeade let on that Trump’s lawyers never came up with evidence of v***r f***d. He also called Trump “unhinged.” And during the network’s coverage last Thursday, Bret Baier remarked on the fact that the hearings featured officials “who again were working for President Trump, [and] stood up saying, ‘we have an oath to the Constitution.’ ” (Disclaimer: I am an MSNBC contributor.) While some v**ers might not have tuned in to watch the proceedings live, coverage is all over social media. It’s hard to ignore the hearings entirely.

Certainly, MAGA-rally-attending conspiracy theorists are not going to be swayed by any of that. But a mainstream Republican reading an article in, say, the Wall Street Journal will surely absorb the enormity of the evidence against Trump.

These v**ers — the Republicans who convinced themselves Trump was preferable to “socialist” Democrats or who believe Democrats are out to pollute children’s mind with critical race theory — are crucial. For them, the choice might now be Trump or someone who h**es Democrats as much as they do but can spare them from Trump’s obsession with 2020.

Trump’s likely 2024 opponents must be licking their chops. As Politico recently reported, an adviser to Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis characterized the hearings as a “continuation of the exhausting circus that surrounds Trump.” The DeSantis adviser insists that big-money donors (who are presumably more rational that the average MAGA conspiratorialist) have become “s**k of the s---show.” That helps to explain the anecdotal evidence that DeSantis provides an escape route for Republicans looking for someone “like Trump but less crazy.”

Sarah Longwell, Republican strategist and head of Republican V**ers Against Trump, has conducted two focus groups among Republican v**ers since the hearings began. She tells me that for the first time ever, “zero people in either group wanted Trump to run again in 2024.” She explains: “I’ve conducted dozens and dozens of focus groups with Trump v**ers since J*** 6, and almost uniformly roughly half the group or more wants to see Trump run again. So while two groups with nobody wanting Trump to run again isn’t exactly a trend, it is a divergence from what had been an incredibly consistent finding.” She adds that the hearings are reminding v**ers of “all the baggage that comes with Trump. … They want to move on.” She also notes that there is consistently rising interest in DeSantis.

Indeed, some Republican operatives now comically insist that the hearings (which no one was supposed to watch) might deliver Republicans a “better” candidate than Trump for 2024. That’s an implicit concession that the hearings are making some difference and are bad for Trump.

Of course, swindled people do not like to admit they were swindled. Most Republicans are not going to tell pollsters they now disapprove of Trump or that the Democrats were right about 2020. They are not going to finally acknowledge that the “big lie” was just that — a lie. But many more Republicans might be amenable to finding someone who does not appear unhinged and did not try to use the presidency to reverse an e******n outcome.

The J*** 6 c*******e shows no sign of interest in the downstream impact of the hearings. Its members are there to set the record straight; to ferret out evidence of possibly criminal activity; to identify who enabled Trump and who stood up to him; and, finally, to draft recommendations to prevent another c**p attempt in 2024.
Nevertheless, if Trump ends up appearing washed up and struggling to pursue the presidency, that would also be a boon to democracy."

Jennifer Rubin

"Pollsters, pundits and Republican operatives... (show quote)

A wimper will work. Bill Barr left Trump with the 'insanity' plea if he can handle it. Barr- "... "detached from reality"

anotherview Loc: California

Here we have another expression of Anti-Trump Derangement Syndrome. Under it, individuals cannot see or think straight about anything Trump says or does, regardless of merit.

Kmgw9v wrote:

"Pollsters, pundits and Republican operatives have long insisted that the House J*** 6 c*******e’s hearings won’t change v**ers’ minds, largely because Republican v**ers deep in the right-wing media cocoon are ignoring the hearings. But there’s evidence the “nothing matters” crowd is wrong.

For starters, polling shows increased interest in prosecuting defeated former president Donald Trump. Even before the committee’s blockbuster hearings last week — which featured damning testimony from former Justice Department officials in the Trump administration, Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R), and Georgia e******n workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss — the percentage of Americans who thought Trump should be charged with a crime was rising. An ABC News-Ipsos poll found that 58 percent of Americans agreed with that earlier this month, compared with 52 percent who said the same in April.

Plus, the right-wing media bubble might not block out exposure to the hearings’ findings entirely. Fox News host Brian Kilmeade let on that Trump’s lawyers never came up with evidence of v***r f***d. He also called Trump “unhinged.” And during the network’s coverage last Thursday, Bret Baier remarked on the fact that the hearings featured officials “who again were working for President Trump, [and] stood up saying, ‘we have an oath to the Constitution.’ ” (Disclaimer: I am an MSNBC contributor.) While some v**ers might not have tuned in to watch the proceedings live, coverage is all over social media. It’s hard to ignore the hearings entirely.

Certainly, MAGA-rally-attending conspiracy theorists are not going to be swayed by any of that. But a mainstream Republican reading an article in, say, the Wall Street Journal will surely absorb the enormity of the evidence against Trump.

These v**ers — the Republicans who convinced themselves Trump was preferable to “socialist” Democrats or who believe Democrats are out to pollute children’s mind with critical race theory — are crucial. For them, the choice might now be Trump or someone who h**es Democrats as much as they do but can spare them from Trump’s obsession with 2020.

Trump’s likely 2024 opponents must be licking their chops. As Politico recently reported, an adviser to Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis characterized the hearings as a “continuation of the exhausting circus that surrounds Trump.” The DeSantis adviser insists that big-money donors (who are presumably more rational that the average MAGA conspiratorialist) have become “s**k of the s---show.” That helps to explain the anecdotal evidence that DeSantis provides an escape route for Republicans looking for someone “like Trump but less crazy.”

Sarah Longwell, Republican strategist and head of Republican V**ers Against Trump, has conducted two focus groups among Republican v**ers since the hearings began. She tells me that for the first time ever, “zero people in either group wanted Trump to run again in 2024.” She explains: “I’ve conducted dozens and dozens of focus groups with Trump v**ers since J*** 6, and almost uniformly roughly half the group or more wants to see Trump run again. So while two groups with nobody wanting Trump to run again isn’t exactly a trend, it is a divergence from what had been an incredibly consistent finding.” She adds that the hearings are reminding v**ers of “all the baggage that comes with Trump. … They want to move on.” She also notes that there is consistently rising interest in DeSantis.

Indeed, some Republican operatives now comically insist that the hearings (which no one was supposed to watch) might deliver Republicans a “better” candidate than Trump for 2024. That’s an implicit concession that the hearings are making some difference and are bad for Trump.

Of course, swindled people do not like to admit they were swindled. Most Republicans are not going to tell pollsters they now disapprove of Trump or that the Democrats were right about 2020. They are not going to finally acknowledge that the “big lie” was just that — a lie. But many more Republicans might be amenable to finding someone who does not appear unhinged and did not try to use the presidency to reverse an e******n outcome.

The J*** 6 c*******e shows no sign of interest in the downstream impact of the hearings. Its members are there to set the record straight; to ferret out evidence of possibly criminal activity; to identify who enabled Trump and who stood up to him; and, finally, to draft recommendations to prevent another c**p attempt in 2024.
Nevertheless, if Trump ends up appearing washed up and struggling to pursue the presidency, that would also be a boon to democracy."

Jennifer Rubin

"Pollsters, pundits and Republican operatives... (show quote)

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

anotherview wrote:

Here we have another expression of Anti-Trump Derangement Syndrome. Under it, individuals cannot see or think straight about anything Trump says or does, regardless of merit.

What has that have to do with the substance of the article?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Kmgw9v wrote:

What has that have to do with the substance of the article?

It has everything to do with your severe case of TDS.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Racmanaz wrote:

It has everything to do with your severe case of TDS.

Raccy Boy At this point it ha become obvious that those that still support Trump are the ones that are deranged.
I'm so sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but until you accept your mental illness and seek help for it, you are condemned to living a life worshipping a fat piece of sh!t.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Frank T wrote:

Raccy Boy At this point it ha become obvious that those that still support Trump are the ones that are deranged.
I'm so sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but until you accept your mental illness and seek help for it, you are condemned to living a life worshipping a fat piece of sh!t.

There you go again projecting when the t***h is told about you lunatic Lefties.

nathanweddings

Well & insightfully said. I have NO problem with Republicans. I agree with a few of their viewpoints. I am just so disappointed with those who worship the false idol trump.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Racmanaz wrote:

There you go again projecting when the t***h is told about you lunatic Lefties.

Are you going to watch the investigation hearings this afternoon?

nathanweddings

Yes.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Kmgw9v wrote:

Are you going to watch the investigation hearings this afternoon?

What investigation hearings? I don't have the time nor the desire to watch ANY hearings.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Racmanaz wrote:

What investigation hearings? I don't have the time nor the desire to watch ANY hearings.

And you are proud!

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

anotherview wrote:

Here we have another expression of Anti-Trump Derangement Syndrome. Under it, individuals cannot see or think straight about anything Trump says or does, regardless of merit.

And you provide another fine expression of BTS! Fair enough!

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Kmgw9v wrote:

And you are proud!

I'm proud that I don't waste my time in garbage? Heck yeah.