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"A******n deserves a sober debate. Instead it gets a war of unreason"
Jun 28, 2022 07:47:15   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
"This is a difficult moment for Roe v. Wade to have fallen.

A complicated debate about life and death — involving science, law and moral philosophy — has been thrown into the middle of an escalating culture war. And intemperance is the order of the day.

Decades ago there were more pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats to help blunt the partisan edge of the debate. Now, views on the topic have sorted by party and geography. The GOP has become captive to an ideology of power that often (on issues such as immigration, refugees and poverty) belies its pro-life pretenses. And many Republican state legislatures — where post-Roe legal changes will mostly play out — have become laboratories of radicalism.

The question naturally arises: Are governors and state legislators who opposed lifesaving v******tion in the middle of a p******c really equal to Solomonic choices about the reach of human autonomy and worth of nascent life?

Yet some ill-timed events are also inevitable. Roe has always been vulnerable because it was so poorly argued. Its medical line-drawing was fundamentally arbitrary. Its legal reasoning was uncompelling, even to many liberals. “The failure to confront the issue in principled terms,” said Archibald Cox, President John F. Kennedy’s solicitor general, “leaves the opinion to read like a set of hospital rules and regulations. … Neither historian, nor layman, nor lawyer will be persuaded that all the prescriptions of Justice [Harry] Blackmun are part of the Constitution.”

The breathtaking overreach of Roe has been cited as the cause for an enduring political backlash. And one legal mind who famously did the citing was Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a strong supporter of a******n rights. Speaking at the University of Chicago Law School in 2013, Ginsburg faulted Roe as being too sweeping, giving the pro-life movement “a target to aim at relentlessly.” A******n rights, she argued, would have been more deeply rooted had they been secured more gradually, in a process including state legislatures — which in the early ’70s were moving toward liberalized a******n laws. “My criticism of Roe,” she said, “is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum that was on the side of change.”

Roe has been one of the first and largest sources of ideological polarization. Tens of millions of Americans believe a******n is a fundamental right. Tens of millions believe developing human life has moral worth and should have legal protection

In 1973, the Supreme Court came down heavily on one side, essentially telling pro-life citizens they could never politically win because the Constitution wouldn’t allow it. They naturally felt disenfranchised. If in 1973 the court had held that fetal life deserved all the protections of the 14th Amendment, I imagine pro-choice citizens would have felt disenfranchised as well.

This is the problem of seeking monumental social change by convincing a Supreme Court majority rather than working toward a social and political consensus. In the United States, lasting legitimacy is the product of democratic consent. Rule by court diktat is written in sand, even if the tide rises only once in a half-century.

It’s disappointing to watch elements of the left react to the democratization of the a******n issue by attacking democracy itself. The argument goes: The e*******l college gives Republicans — who have lost the popular v**e in five of the last six e******ns — an advantage in winning the presidency and appointing Supreme Court justices. And the gerrymandering of state legislative districts has resulted in a GOP stranglehold on many state legislatures. Thus, the institutions where the left loses are r****d and illegitimate. That sounds much like the attitude it has been criticizing and fighting on the Trump-right.

A universal principle of politics is that whinging is not an effective substitute for organization. Neither is vituperation. I accept that pro-choice advocates believe they are seeking the welfare of women. But when they accuse pro-life people of intentional cruelty, or seeking to turn back the clock on civil rights, or advocating “a crime against humanity” (as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has charged), they poison our politics with venomous libel. Almost uniformly in my experience, pro-life advocates believe they are serving the most vulnerable members of the human family by expanding the circle of legal inclusion and protection.

I’m more comfortable with the gradualism recommended in Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.’s prickly concurrence to Dobbs. He criticized the stridency and “relentless freedom from doubt” in Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.’s ruling opinion. Roberts’s temperamental conservatism might have reached a similar conclusion over the course of a few more cases and lowered the initial shock to the body politic.

For the foreseeable future, the a******n debate — with all its tragic complexities — has been returned to the realm of democracy. And there is little evidence our democracy is prepared for it."

Michael Gerson

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Jun 29, 2022 09:55:15   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Outstanding piece. Thank you for posting it.

Ben

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Jun 29, 2022 10:28:03   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
👌

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Jun 29, 2022 11:02:30   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"This is a difficult moment for Roe v. Wade to have fallen.

A complicated debate about life and death — involving science, law and moral philosophy — has been thrown into the middle of an escalating culture war. And intemperance is the order of the day.

Decades ago there were more pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats to help blunt the partisan edge of the debate. Now, views on the topic have sorted by party and geography. The GOP has become captive to an ideology of power that often (on issues such as immigration, refugees and poverty) belies its pro-life pretenses. And many Republican state legislatures — where post-Roe legal changes will mostly play out — have become laboratories of radicalism.

The question naturally arises: Are governors and state legislators who opposed lifesaving v******tion in the middle of a p******c really equal to Solomonic choices about the reach of human autonomy and worth of nascent life?

Yet some ill-timed events are also inevitable. Roe has always been vulnerable because it was so poorly argued. Its medical line-drawing was fundamentally arbitrary. Its legal reasoning was uncompelling, even to many liberals. “The failure to confront the issue in principled terms,” said Archibald Cox, President John F. Kennedy’s solicitor general, “leaves the opinion to read like a set of hospital rules and regulations. … Neither historian, nor layman, nor lawyer will be persuaded that all the prescriptions of Justice [Harry] Blackmun are part of the Constitution.”

The breathtaking overreach of Roe has been cited as the cause for an enduring political backlash. And one legal mind who famously did the citing was Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a strong supporter of a******n rights. Speaking at the University of Chicago Law School in 2013, Ginsburg faulted Roe as being too sweeping, giving the pro-life movement “a target to aim at relentlessly.” A******n rights, she argued, would have been more deeply rooted had they been secured more gradually, in a process including state legislatures — which in the early ’70s were moving toward liberalized a******n laws. “My criticism of Roe,” she said, “is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum that was on the side of change.”

Roe has been one of the first and largest sources of ideological polarization. Tens of millions of Americans believe a******n is a fundamental right. Tens of millions believe developing human life has moral worth and should have legal protection

In 1973, the Supreme Court came down heavily on one side, essentially telling pro-life citizens they could never politically win because the Constitution wouldn’t allow it. They naturally felt disenfranchised. If in 1973 the court had held that fetal life deserved all the protections of the 14th Amendment, I imagine pro-choice citizens would have felt disenfranchised as well.

This is the problem of seeking monumental social change by convincing a Supreme Court majority rather than working toward a social and political consensus. In the United States, lasting legitimacy is the product of democratic consent. Rule by court diktat is written in sand, even if the tide rises only once in a half-century.

It’s disappointing to watch elements of the left react to the democratization of the a******n issue by attacking democracy itself. The argument goes: The e*******l college gives Republicans — who have lost the popular v**e in five of the last six e******ns — an advantage in winning the presidency and appointing Supreme Court justices. And the gerrymandering of state legislative districts has resulted in a GOP stranglehold on many state legislatures. Thus, the institutions where the left loses are r****d and illegitimate. That sounds much like the attitude it has been criticizing and fighting on the Trump-right.

A universal principle of politics is that whinging is not an effective substitute for organization. Neither is vituperation. I accept that pro-choice advocates believe they are seeking the welfare of women. But when they accuse pro-life people of intentional cruelty, or seeking to turn back the clock on civil rights, or advocating “a crime against humanity” (as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has charged), they poison our politics with venomous libel. Almost uniformly in my experience, pro-life advocates believe they are serving the most vulnerable members of the human family by expanding the circle of legal inclusion and protection.

I’m more comfortable with the gradualism recommended in Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.’s prickly concurrence to Dobbs. He criticized the stridency and “relentless freedom from doubt” in Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.’s ruling opinion. Roberts’s temperamental conservatism might have reached a similar conclusion over the course of a few more cases and lowered the initial shock to the body politic.

For the foreseeable future, the a******n debate — with all its tragic complexities — has been returned to the realm of democracy. And there is little evidence our democracy is prepared for it."

Michael Gerson
"This is a difficult moment for Roe v. Wade t... (show quote)


Gerson is "more comfortable with the gradualism" of a******n law. This is the same 'reasonable' dimwit Democrat thinking that one can be 'half pregnant'.

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Jun 29, 2022 11:55:40   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Gerson is "more comfortable with the gradualism" of a******n law. This is the same 'reasonable' dimwit Democrat thinking that one can be 'half pregnant'.

Or that “men” can be ‘birthing persons’.

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Jun 29, 2022 12:09:48   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Or that “men” can be ‘birthing persons’.


Correct. And from the "party of science", no less.

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Jun 29, 2022 12:15:45   #
Rose42
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"This is a difficult moment for Roe v. Wade to have fallen.

A complicated debate about life and death — involving science, law and moral philosophy — has been thrown into the middle of an escalating culture war. And intemperance is the order of the day.

Decades ago there were more pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats to help blunt the partisan edge of the debate. Now, views on the topic have sorted by party and geography. The GOP has become captive to an ideology of power that often (on issues such as immigration, refugees and poverty) belies its pro-life pretenses. And many Republican state legislatures — where post-Roe legal changes will mostly play out — have become laboratories of radicalism.

The question naturally arises: Are governors and state legislators who opposed lifesaving v******tion in the middle of a p******c really equal to Solomonic choices about the reach of human autonomy and worth of nascent life?

Yet some ill-timed events are also inevitable. Roe has always been vulnerable because it was so poorly argued. Its medical line-drawing was fundamentally arbitrary. Its legal reasoning was uncompelling, even to many liberals. “The failure to confront the issue in principled terms,” said Archibald Cox, President John F. Kennedy’s solicitor general, “leaves the opinion to read like a set of hospital rules and regulations. … Neither historian, nor layman, nor lawyer will be persuaded that all the prescriptions of Justice [Harry] Blackmun are part of the Constitution.”

The breathtaking overreach of Roe has been cited as the cause for an enduring political backlash. And one legal mind who famously did the citing was Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a strong supporter of a******n rights. Speaking at the University of Chicago Law School in 2013, Ginsburg faulted Roe as being too sweeping, giving the pro-life movement “a target to aim at relentlessly.” A******n rights, she argued, would have been more deeply rooted had they been secured more gradually, in a process including state legislatures — which in the early ’70s were moving toward liberalized a******n laws. “My criticism of Roe,” she said, “is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum that was on the side of change.”

Roe has been one of the first and largest sources of ideological polarization. Tens of millions of Americans believe a******n is a fundamental right. Tens of millions believe developing human life has moral worth and should have legal protection

In 1973, the Supreme Court came down heavily on one side, essentially telling pro-life citizens they could never politically win because the Constitution wouldn’t allow it. They naturally felt disenfranchised. If in 1973 the court had held that fetal life deserved all the protections of the 14th Amendment, I imagine pro-choice citizens would have felt disenfranchised as well.

This is the problem of seeking monumental social change by convincing a Supreme Court majority rather than working toward a social and political consensus. In the United States, lasting legitimacy is the product of democratic consent. Rule by court diktat is written in sand, even if the tide rises only once in a half-century.

It’s disappointing to watch elements of the left react to the democratization of the a******n issue by attacking democracy itself. The argument goes: The e*******l college gives Republicans — who have lost the popular v**e in five of the last six e******ns — an advantage in winning the presidency and appointing Supreme Court justices. And the gerrymandering of state legislative districts has resulted in a GOP stranglehold on many state legislatures. Thus, the institutions where the left loses are r****d and illegitimate. That sounds much like the attitude it has been criticizing and fighting on the Trump-right.

A universal principle of politics is that whinging is not an effective substitute for organization. Neither is vituperation. I accept that pro-choice advocates believe they are seeking the welfare of women. But when they accuse pro-life people of intentional cruelty, or seeking to turn back the clock on civil rights, or advocating “a crime against humanity” (as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has charged), they poison our politics with venomous libel. Almost uniformly in my experience, pro-life advocates believe they are serving the most vulnerable members of the human family by expanding the circle of legal inclusion and protection.

I’m more comfortable with the gradualism recommended in Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.’s prickly concurrence to Dobbs. He criticized the stridency and “relentless freedom from doubt” in Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.’s ruling opinion. Roberts’s temperamental conservatism might have reached a similar conclusion over the course of a few more cases and lowered the initial shock to the body politic.

For the foreseeable future, the a******n debate — with all its tragic complexities — has been returned to the realm of democracy. And there is little evidence our democracy is prepared for it."

Michael Gerson
"This is a difficult moment for Roe v. Wade t... (show quote)


Good article with some great points

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Jun 29, 2022 19:55:54   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"This is a difficult moment for Roe v. Wade to have fallen.

A complicated debate about life and death — involving science, law and moral philosophy — has been thrown into the middle of an escalating culture war. And intemperance is the order of the day.

Decades ago there were more pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats to help blunt the partisan edge of the debate. Now, views on the topic have sorted by party and geography. The GOP has become captive to an ideology of power that often (on issues such as immigration, refugees and poverty) belies its pro-life pretenses. And many Republican state legislatures — where post-Roe legal changes will mostly play out — have become laboratories of radicalism.

The question naturally arises: Are governors and state legislators who opposed lifesaving v******tion in the middle of a p******c really equal to Solomonic choices about the reach of human autonomy and worth of nascent life?

Yet some ill-timed events are also inevitable. Roe has always been vulnerable because it was so poorly argued. Its medical line-drawing was fundamentally arbitrary. Its legal reasoning was uncompelling, even to many liberals. “The failure to confront the issue in principled terms,” said Archibald Cox, President John F. Kennedy’s solicitor general, “leaves the opinion to read like a set of hospital rules and regulations. … Neither historian, nor layman, nor lawyer will be persuaded that all the prescriptions of Justice [Harry] Blackmun are part of the Constitution.”

The breathtaking overreach of Roe has been cited as the cause for an enduring political backlash. And one legal mind who famously did the citing was Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a strong supporter of a******n rights. Speaking at the University of Chicago Law School in 2013, Ginsburg faulted Roe as being too sweeping, giving the pro-life movement “a target to aim at relentlessly.” A******n rights, she argued, would have been more deeply rooted had they been secured more gradually, in a process including state legislatures — which in the early ’70s were moving toward liberalized a******n laws. “My criticism of Roe,” she said, “is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum that was on the side of change.”

Roe has been one of the first and largest sources of ideological polarization. Tens of millions of Americans believe a******n is a fundamental right. Tens of millions believe developing human life has moral worth and should have legal protection

In 1973, the Supreme Court came down heavily on one side, essentially telling pro-life citizens they could never politically win because the Constitution wouldn’t allow it. They naturally felt disenfranchised. If in 1973 the court had held that fetal life deserved all the protections of the 14th Amendment, I imagine pro-choice citizens would have felt disenfranchised as well.

This is the problem of seeking monumental social change by convincing a Supreme Court majority rather than working toward a social and political consensus. In the United States, lasting legitimacy is the product of democratic consent. Rule by court diktat is written in sand, even if the tide rises only once in a half-century.

It’s disappointing to watch elements of the left react to the democratization of the a******n issue by attacking democracy itself. The argument goes: The e*******l college gives Republicans — who have lost the popular v**e in five of the last six e******ns — an advantage in winning the presidency and appointing Supreme Court justices. And the gerrymandering of state legislative districts has resulted in a GOP stranglehold on many state legislatures. Thus, the institutions where the left loses are r****d and illegitimate. That sounds much like the attitude it has been criticizing and fighting on the Trump-right.

A universal principle of politics is that whinging is not an effective substitute for organization. Neither is vituperation. I accept that pro-choice advocates believe they are seeking the welfare of women. But when they accuse pro-life people of intentional cruelty, or seeking to turn back the clock on civil rights, or advocating “a crime against humanity” (as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has charged), they poison our politics with venomous libel. Almost uniformly in my experience, pro-life advocates believe they are serving the most vulnerable members of the human family by expanding the circle of legal inclusion and protection.

I’m more comfortable with the gradualism recommended in Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.’s prickly concurrence to Dobbs. He criticized the stridency and “relentless freedom from doubt” in Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.’s ruling opinion. Roberts’s temperamental conservatism might have reached a similar conclusion over the course of a few more cases and lowered the initial shock to the body politic.

For the foreseeable future, the a******n debate — with all its tragic complexities — has been returned to the realm of democracy. And there is little evidence our democracy is prepared for it."

Michael Gerson
"This is a difficult moment for Roe v. Wade t... (show quote)


Certainly a much more reasonable piece than you usually post.

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