Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

"The House J*** 6 c*******e on Tuesday provided multiple memorable moments, including Arizona House Speaker Russell “Rusty” Bowers’s moving devotion to the Constitution.

Beyond that, viewers should draw at least four conclusions about former president Donald Trump’s campaign to pressure e******n officials

1. Forget the excuses about Trump’s “intent”
The evidence the committee presented on Tuesday largely destroyed the bogus argument that “intent” is a barrier to prosecution. Bowers’s testimony about Rudy Giuliani’s supposed gaffe that the Trump camp had “lots of theories” but no “evidence” was as damning a confession as any.

The attempts to deceive e*****rs also point to corrupt intent. Former Michigan GOP chair Laura Cox testified that the Trump campaign told her that f**e e*****rs would “hide overnight” in the state Capitol to cast v**es in the chamber. She said she responded “in no uncertain terms that that was insane and inappropriate.

Meanwhile, an Arizona e*****r testified that he was misled and not told about the concerns of Trump campaign lawyers. He assured investigators he would not have participated in the plot to devise f**e e*****rs had he known the full t***h. This was not a scheme operated in good faith.

As for Trump personally, aides including the White House counsel, former attorney general William P. Barr and other Justice Department officials all shot down his false claims of fraud and rejected his rationalization for f**e e*****rs. Trump heard the same thing from state officials.

Bowers told Trump he wouldn’t participate in the illegal scheme. And Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger also told Trump his claims were false. Trump’s request that Raffensperger “find” just enough v**es to flip the state should remove any doubt that Trump acted benignly — especially given Trump’s retweet of a statement from one of his lawyers, L. Lin Wood, that Raffensperger would go to jail, and his unsubtle threats that Raffensperger would face criminal prosecution if he failed to comply.

Let’s be clear: Trump’s insistence that he “won” was, if anything, a motive — but not a defense. Far too many mainstream reporters have asserted that Trump cannot be successfully prosecuted if he “really” believed he won the e******n. This is not true. Trump could not avoid legal liability for bribing then-Vice President Mike Pence to hand him the e******n solely because he legitimately believed the e******n was s****n. Same goes for his efforts to procure phony e*****rs despite warnings it was illegal.

2. Trump promoted violence against e******n officials

Bowers in his testimony described the vicious attacks and threats he was subjected to
following the e******n. Gabriel Sterling, chief operating officer for Georgia’s secretary of state, and Wandrea ArShaye “Shaye” Moss, a former Georgia e******n worker, similarly detailed how Trump and his deranged followers put them in danger of crazed mobs by promoting the “big lie.”

Moss described the absurd lies from Giuliani that triggered an avalanche of threats. The mob even pushed their way into Moss’s grandmother’s house. Their lives were ruined; their psyches were damaged. Moss’s mother, in video testimony before the committee, pleaded: “Do you know how it feels to have the president of the United States target you? The president of the United States is supposed to represent every American. Not to target one.”
Neither Trump nor other Republicans had condemned that conduct. The testimony was as infuriating as it was troubling. This is what happens in totalitarian countries run by bullies and thugs.

Republicans have rightly reacted with outrage to the assassination plot against Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh. Why, then, have they tolerated this sort of threatening behavior against e******n officials? Why do they continue to support the man who incited mobs to terrorize ordinary Americans?

3. State prosecutors in other swing states should start investigations

E*******l college certificates declaring Trump the winner in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were amateurish at best, but obviously fraudulent. The side-by-side comparison of the shoddy f**e slates and the official certification reflects a ham-handed effort to create a phony paper trail that would justify stealing the e******n from the rightful winner. Nevertheless, sneaking around to create bogus documents should be fodder for criminal investigations in all these states.

4. V**ers should worry about the “clear and present danger” from state e******n deniers

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), at the onset of Tuesday’s hearing, made the point that not a single legislature went back into session to undo the e******n. But would the crop of MAGA e******n deniers running for office in 2022 do the same?

With more than 100 e******n deniers on the b****t in November, it’s easy to imagine what might have occurred had one of these individuals, not Raffensperger, been Georgia’s secretary of state in 2020. What would have happened if a MAGA flunky, not Bowers, was House speaker in Arizona?

As Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), chairman of the House J*** 6 c*******e, put it: “The danger hasn’t gone away. The lie hasn’t gone away. It’s corrupting our democratic institutions. People who believe that lie are now seeking positions of public trust.”
The committee’s vice chair, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), similarly warned that “institutions don’t defend themselves.” The best way to defend the institution of e******ns would be to punish those who tried to steal an e******n and undo the will of the people."

Jennifer Rubin

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

Never ever, ever, ever trust a witness that has NOT been crossed examined.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

This is not a trial. The witnesses are, nonetheless, testifying until oath in front of a Congessional committee.
Do you think they are telling lies? Face it, Trump pressured everybody possible to overturn the e******n.
He has no scruples, no respect for the Constitutional e*******l process.

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

LOLOL, Under Oath? Politicians haven’t respected that term for years, means nothing to them today. Without cross, there’s absolutely no context and shows the totally partisan nature of this investigation.

Guess GOP will have their chance at scripting these numerous investigations come November.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Well, let's see.

You are right this is not a trial in the United States that we know. It is exactly like the sham trials of Stalin when his political opponents were indicted, persecuted, and erased. And look at all the losers on this panel. Adam Schiff who has been wrong four major times in his phony crusades against Trump and has never been right.

"Trump promoted violence against e******n officials"?? Did he do it the way Chuck Schumer did to Grouch and Kavanaugh? Urging mob violence and threatening them with death?

And violating an oath to tell the t***h? You mean like Clapper and Brennan who never paid any price at all for lying to Congress and the American people.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Kevin McCarthy made a big blunder in not allowing Republicans to sit on the panel. They would have completely mucked up the process, with irrelevant questions, distractions and twists of the t***h, leading to uneasy confusion; rather than the orderly, coherent, believable presentation that it has proved to be so far.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

And the Democrats try to push the e*****rs to change their v**e from Trump to Hillary in 2016. Lefties have no respect for the constitutional e*******l process either.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Why is it that you rarely ever talk about Biden and his accomplishments? You seem to always focus on Trump and he's not even president.

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

They are scared, very, very scared of another successful fours years of President Trump. To be honest, my Gov, DeSantis, is my personal first choice but Trump is far and away better than any candidate in the Democrat stable. They are pursuing a scorched earth approach with this sham investigation, casting a wide net to try and catch as many as they can…always coming up empty…Cheers

btbg

What are you even talking about. It was Pelosi that wouldn't let Republicans sit on the committee. McCarthy legally submitted five names to be on the committee. And, I don't want to here the claims that some of the five were part of the i**********n. Without people questioning the narrative that has been put out by people who believed that Trump was guilty before they had any evidence it is not a legitimate hearing.

You are right that had republicans been on the committee the outcome would be different, but that's all on the lying c***ting democrats, not on McCarthy. No one that McCarthy appointed would have been accepted except those like Cheney who were all in to get Trump to start with. Pelosi would have denied anyone else access to the committee, which is exactly why when his appointments were denied McCarthy refused to cooperate further.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

The man attempted to illegally o*******w the government by making himself president after the v**ers v**ed him ou5 of office, and you think he is a good candidate for President. Are you an American?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

BS, just more of the same Russia/Trump collision conspiracy BS.

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

Still scared of Trump I see, especially with no factual proof. With that opinion I’m guessing you’ve already read the committee’s draft report that was written by Democrats the day the committee was selected. You’d better hope this sham is finished by Nov because after that, it’s like Cinderella’s coach, “poof” both committee and sham report disappears.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Actually I think you are a Stalinist. You favor sham star-chamber trials that are totally un-American. This travesty of a show is the Democrats attempt to o*******w our country's Constitution and legal system.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

When you have nothing meaningful to say, you make ridiculous statements.
I am not a Stalinist, nor are the Republican and Democratic leaders conducting the J*** 6 c**p and i**********n attemp. Nor, are the millions of the Americans who consider the investigation relevant so as not to let another power-obsessed, autocrat again try to overturn an e******n through illegal means, and p**********l pressure.
Don’t label people until you have thought it through. I am not alone, and mounting evidence has shown that my belief that Trump attempted an illegal c**p against our government are shared by many patriotic Americans—none of them Stalinists. Come up with another disparaging comment—this one fell flat.