Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

"Many Republicans and mainstream media commentators have intoned that the House J*** 6 c*******e’s hearings wouldn’t draw ratings or change v**ers’ minds. That was wrong. In fact, the evidence presented thus far has been far more impactful than the punditocracy predicted.

The first hearing, shown in prime time, generated close to 20 million viewers. The next, during midmorning, attracted 11 million. But even that misses the true impact.
The hearings have dominated front pages and figured prominently in network and cable TV news coverage. People are discussing them widely on social media. The question is no longer about Donald Trump’s role in the attempted c**p (there is no doubt his fingerprints are all over it); instead, the country is avidly debating whether there is sufficient evidence of Trump’s corrupt intent to prosecute him for it.

One poll from Democratic firm Navigator Research found that “the House investigation is garnering attention from the public, with 63 percent of respondents saying they have heard ‘a lot’ or ‘some’ about the hearings." Even more telling: “An increasing number of Americans believe that it is important to uncover the t***h behind the attempted c**p; respondents said that the hearings were important by a 15-point margin, up five points from April.” That increase is largely driven by independents, 45 percent of whom now say the investigation is important, compared with 26 percent who say the opposite

Other polls confirm these findings. A new ABC News-Ipsos poll released on Sunday found that 58 percent of Americans think Trump should be charged criminally, up about six points from a similar poll in April.

There is also some anecdotal evidence that the hearings are getting through even among some Republicans. Retiring Michigan Rep. Fred Upton had this exchange with Dana Bash on CNN’s “State of the Union”:

BASH: Do you think the case the J*** 6 C*******e is presenting is resonating with moderate Republican v**ers and independents?
UPTON: Yes, I think so.

I think the overriding issue certainly is the economy and gas prices. But I think there's been real interest in what's going on. You have got, obviously, your different factions that are not going to turn it on and watch. They made their decision some time ago.
But, yes, I think that it’s had an impact on v**ers across the country. And we will see how this thing plays out. The committee has been very careful not to divulge any details in advance of their hearings.

As the hearings continue this week and beyond, the country will learn even more about Trump’s involvement. Committee member Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) on NBC News’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday suggested that more evidence and “tips” are coming in. That’s a critical benefit of public hearings: Those sitting on the fence might feel more comfortable coming forward. Other witnesses might not have realized the importance of information they’ve had all along.

In other words, the amount and value of evidence that Trump was at the center of the c**p plot will only continue to build. Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), another committee member, recently suggested there is evidence that Trump was directly involved in the scheme to come up with alternative slates of e*****rs.

The serious tenor of the coverage and widespread interest in the evidence have several consequences. The first is that it might influence critical prosecutors, such as Fani Willis in Fulton County, Ga. She will no doubt be avidly watching Tuesday’s testimony from two Georgia state officials regarding the efforts of Trump and then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to pressure e******n officials to “find” just enough v**es to flip the state. And depending on the testimony of other witnesses such as Rusty Bowers, the Republican speaker of Arizona’s House of Representatives, other state investigations might be possible.

Second, the committee has already heightened interest in another promising line of inquiry: Trump’s alleged scheme to raise money for his campaign’s e******n lawsuits through what the committee says is a nonexistent fund. Committee member Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) explained that “the average donation was under $20” and that “these were donors who were not rich, but they responded to his appeals, which were fraudulent. And I don’t think that’s right.” Whether the alleged s**m raises criminal or civil liability will no doubt be the subject of vigorous investigation among state prosecutors, state attorneys general and class-action lawyers. Without the hearings, it’s doubtful that ever would have occurred.

Third, in the event the Justice Department decides not to prosecute Trump and his closest cronies, Attorney General Merrick Garland will be under tremendous pressure to justify why the mound of evidence is not enough. Garland has vowed to ignore all politics, and his decision will inevitably involve whether he thinks a jury can find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. If anything, public expectations might be shifting such that a refusal to prosecute would seem shocking to most Americans.

In sum, the hearings are already having a palpable impact on the public’s perception of Trump and on state officials as they contemplate their next steps. In the end, the public might not be surprised if they lead to multiple actions against the former president and his closest aides."

Jennifer Rubin

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Seeing as no one is watching the farce.
This is just a bunch of f**e news wishful thinking.
Reminds me of the Russia h**x where we were told for 4 years that there was solid evidence.
The only evidence was collusion with Hillary and the DNC with Russia.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

More Republicans, Trump supporters, are testifying today. You should watch the hearings.

tramsey Loc: Texas

I watched the rep from Arizona rip Trump and new one and I am waiting for more.
I have to be honest though; I do like many of his policies but I wouldn't stay in the same room

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

So you prefer hyper inflation, highest ever gas prices, unprecedented shortages, except for war, laughing stock of the world, begging for oil from our enemies, unprecedented crimes in the cities of the nation, open borders bringing drugs, and child selling.
All these are crimes against humanity and FJB owns them all.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

I am a liberal, and I cannot admit to liking most of Trump’s policies. ButI I can gracefully accept conservative policies from a sane, law-respecting Republican who respects the Constitution, the rile of law, and knows right from wrong. That is the two party system.
My problem with Trump and always has been, his self-serving dishonesty. I will never understand why the Republican Party have supported and defended this waste of a man—this narcissistic, self-serving con-man despite his lack of impulse control, his history of mendacity, his obvious need for attention to feed insecurities and open disrespect for the rule of law; rather than a true conservative with honest intent.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

No one who is like you is watching the hearings.
Many in the country are and you would do yourself a favor and tune in yourself, so you wouldn't look so ignorant.

btbg

How about trying to explain why the democrat party has supported the lying self serving con-man Joe Biden. He has spent 46 years in politics enriching his family, while consistently lying. Trump had four years in politics. So, why the h**e for one liar while you have not said one critical thing about a liar with 46 years of public lying?

If you don't like policy, that's fine. No problem, despite the fact that Trump's policies were clearly working better than Biden's are. But to h**e a man for demonstrating the same characteristics of the man your party elected president, that makes no sense.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Deflection! This is not about Biden.
It is about Trump’s illegal attempts to defy the Will of the American v**ers, and illegally overturn a l********e e******n, and in doing so, crap on this country’s e*******l process, and democracy.
Trump actually thought he was in control of a third world country, where the will of the people is dismissed, in favor of corruption and e******n shenanigans. Trump admitted that he lost the e******n, but still persisted in these illegal attempts to remain in power. Read the Eastman memo, watch the Trump-hired Republicans testify as to what he did.
Democracy is fragile, and Trump almost destroyed it’s bedrock—the e*******l, Constitutionally designed process of the people electing it’s President. And you guys still leave your heads in the sand.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Well FJB and his administration h**e the Constitution and are working to destroy it.
And he is the most corrupt president in history.

mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD

Deflection! This is not about Biden.

Are you that self unaware that you do not see the stupid hypocracy in that statement? That's exactly what you do in every post about Biden. But what about Trump? You are pitiful.

btbg

I know what your thread is about. That does not mean I am not asking a legitimate question. You would get much further with the conservatives on this site if you were honest about the behavior of democrat politicians such as Clinton, Biden, Schiff and Schumer.

Much of the reason that we do not believe what is going on with the 1*6 c*******e has to do with how Schiff lied about Trump and Russia, the fact that Pelosi did not have the committee follow the rules that were set for the committee and the fact that they are not even questioning anyone who gives a different narrative about what happened on 1*6, including the FBI agent that acknowledged to Ted Cruz in a hearing in January that there were FBI agents in the crowd on 1*6. We now also know that there were District of Columbia undercover police in the crowd as well. But no one is asking if those individuals helped incite the r**ting, like we know happened with the plot to kidnap Michigan governor Whitmer.

They are also not investigation why the offer of National Guard troops was declined. You want us to take the hearings seriously then you need to be honest about how the hearings are being conducted and about the integrity of democrat politicians.

We have been listening to you bash Trump for four years. In that time not one word about the egregious behavior of democrats. We have all acknowledged that Trump is a jerk, but your h**e of the man is blinding you to what progressives are doing to this country. So, no, I am not deflecting.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Any GOPer could have done what Trump did ... without getting impeached twice in four years.


"Only I can fix Mornon!"

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

The leaders of the Republican Party supported Trump because they knew they could not afford to not support him and lose the v**es of Trump's base. That base includes everything from W***e S*********ts to crazy conspiracy theory believers. Traditional Republicans (caled RINO's by the Trumpians) made a deal with the devil to allow violent extremists and crazy clowns to gain control of the formerly respectable GOP and just turn it into a complete circus show of crazies. Many candidates with R's after their names will win e******ns, but the Republican Party is dead and buried and might as well just change their name to the Trumpian Extremist Party.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

All Americans know for an indisputable fact that this is nothing different than a Soviet show trial with the verdict already written.
The final act will be to v**e to impeach Trump again even though he will have been out of office for nearly two years.