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Ivermectin does not reduce Covid Symptoms or hospitalizations
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Jun 15, 2022 17:18:32   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
According to a large scale Duke University/Medical study. For (useful) medical information only - no need to send this to the attic with a political debate. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article262493147.html

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Jun 15, 2022 17:28:00   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
my brother would disagree with the study. He took it and in 3 days was almost back to normal. He said the drug had to be taken very early in the process.

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Jun 15, 2022 17:38:32   #
Tom Shelburne Loc: Roaring Gap NC
 
This is an anecdote! Need to study larger groups and do controlled trials with active drug and placebo. N=1 means nothing but glad he is better! The Duke study is science not anecdotes.
Dr Tom

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Jun 15, 2022 17:53:54   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
My brother went to 4 doctors before he got the medicine and told me that people should be warned over the amount to take. His doctor prescribed his doses based on his weight because all the dose charts were based on the type of animal and their weight is much more than a human.

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Jun 15, 2022 21:11:48   #
Tom Shelburne Loc: Roaring Gap NC
 
3 smart Drs and one outlier!

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Jun 15, 2022 21:23:01   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
TriX wrote:
According to a large scale Duke University/Medical study. For (useful) medical information only - no need to send this to the attic with a political debate. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article262493147.html


Oh, they should tell that to the numerous countries using it as one of their primary treatments for Covid-19. From what I read the dosage and when the treatment is started determines if it is effective or not. Start too late or use too low a dose and it has little or no effect. But a lot of meds are like that, too little too late-no effect. And with many meds too much and the med itself can kill the patient. One asthma rescue inhaler I have used is like that, use it too much and it causes an attack.

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Jun 15, 2022 21:59:42   #
Tom Shelburne Loc: Roaring Gap NC
 
You have a decision to make -trust evidenced based medicine or some random Dr on Facebook-your choice!?!?

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Jun 15, 2022 22:20:35   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
robertjerl wrote:
Oh, they should tell that to the numerous countries using it as one of their primary treatments for Covid-19. From what I read the dosage and when the treatment is started determines if it is effective or not. Start too late or use too low a dose and it has little or no effect. But a lot of meds are like that, too little too late-no effect. And with many meds too much and the med itself can kill the patient. One asthma rescue inhaler I have used is like that, use it too much and it causes an attack.
Oh, they should tell that to the numerous countrie... (show quote)


Well, I’d just note that lots of countries mishandled the pandemic and there are LOTS of dead victims of that mismanagement. I’m always interested in fact and research based medicine, so I’d welcome reading other large well-conducted studies on the subject. So far, all the data and expert opinion I’ve seen points to the fact that vaccination (and boosters) are the best way to avoid hospitalization and death, but there’s a percentage of our population that doesn’t (or didn’t) believe that either, and some of them paid with their lives for that opinion.

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Jun 15, 2022 22:42:47   #
Tom Shelburne Loc: Roaring Gap NC
 
60 % Republicans fully vaccinated- 75% Independents fully vaccinated - 90% Democrats fully vaccinated- approx numbers - why is this political??!!???!

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Jun 16, 2022 08:38:15   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
From my recent experience, if you test positive and have symptoms go to an emergency room. If you meet the criteria, (age and condition,) they might give you a monoclonal infusion. I tested negative and was free of symptoms in two days.

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Jun 16, 2022 09:36:25   #
diny
 
My brother would differ with you too! He also took drug for 4 days and doctor said it saved his life, we know many other people who have taken also and it has helped them stay out of hospital and to heal completely

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Jun 16, 2022 10:02:51   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
If you test positive, in many cases a doctor will not see you because he or she does not want you in their waiting room infecting others. You will be told to go to an ER. At an ER they will not give you Ivermectin but they will treat you with proven remedies, for free. Those who insist on taking Ivermectin probably will get it late in the progress of their illness so it may not have much effect, if any.

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Jun 16, 2022 10:18:04   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
I'd much rather depend on the scientific studies and recommendations of the medical professionals than believe someone who has no proof they even passed high school science class.

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Jun 16, 2022 10:59:43   #
Stephan G
 
There are probably more people who study horse race stats and make their decisions accordingly. It doesn't make their choice of horse any more a winner than anything else. The horse they choose may cross the line first or middle or last or dead last. The smart ones look at the probabilities. Many of those do not place any bets and walk out like winners.

I have learned a long time ago that when it comes to medicine, it is always a case-by-case issues. One has to look at all possible avenues and results.

Old joke: Nah, he wasn't killed by a disease. He stepped out in front of a bus.

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Jun 16, 2022 11:35:24   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
I read a pair of articles recently by Dr. Pierre Kory that discussed in detail the design and operational flaws in one of the largest scale studies of ivermectin efficacy in treating C-19. The study was reported in the New England Journal of Medicine which said there was little or no value to ivermectin. But Dr. Kory's analysis showed that the study itself was designed to produce that result, in the way they selected and classified their subjects, the way they administered the ivermectin and placebos, and the time and manner of evaluating results.

Big pharma has a huge interest in there NOT being an over the counter solution to compete with their incredibly lucrative "vaccine" offerings. (In part because if there were an OTC alternative they would NOT have been able to distribute their products without the extensive trials that are normally required of new human medicines.) So all tools are deployed to belittle ivermectin, and any who promote it.

Do a search for Pierre Kory Medical Musings if you want to look at the articles, and a lot of others he has posted on the subject of ivermectin.

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