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Jun 12, 2022 05:12:37   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
"Pence Aide Warned Against Blocking E*******l College Count, Memo Shows

Shortly before J*** 6, Vice President Mike Pence’s chief counsel wrote that holding up the certification of the e******n results would violate federal law."Former Vice President Mike Pence’s chief counsel laid out in a memo the day before J*** 6, 2021, that the vice president would violate federal law if he bowed to pressure from President Donald J. Trump to interfere with the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory.

The three-page memo, obtained by Politico and confirmed as authentic by The New York Times, included arguments from the chief counsel, Greg Jacob, that Mr. Pence could find himself in a legally precarious situation if he decided to block the certification of the E*******l College results either unilaterally or by calling for a 10-day delay in the proceedings.

A lawyer advising Mr. Trump, John Eastman, had insisted that Mr. Pence had the power to take both of those actions, emphasizing the 10-day delay as J*** 6 grew closer. Mr. Eastman pressed his claims in a meeting with Mr. Pence and Mr. Jacob in the Oval Office on Jan. 4.

But Mr. Pence, who in the weeks after the e******n told Mr. Trump that he did not believe he had such power but would continue researching the matter, was given concrete guidance by his own aides

Mr. Jacob wrote in the memo that Mr. Pence would most likely be overruled by the courts if he made such a move.

“In a best-case scenario in which the courts refused to get involved, the vice president would likely find himself in an isolated standoff against both houses of Congress, as well as most or all of the applicable state legislatures, with no neutral arbiter available to break the impasse,” Mr. Jacob wrote in the memo.

A spokesman for Mr. Pence declined to comment.

Following its prime-time hearing this past week, the House committee investigating the Capitol r**t is scheduled to hold three more hearings in the coming week, including one on Thursday at which Mr. Jacob is set to be a key witness.

That session is slated to focus on the pressure campaign on Mr. Pence to insert himself into the certification of the E*******l College v**e, a proceeding that is usually routine.
Mr. Jacob has told the committee that he wrote the memo after the meeting with Mr. Eastman, Politico reported.

Mr. Eastman’s conduct has been a focal point of the House investigation into the events that took place leading up to the r**t. In March, in a civil case stemming from Mr. Eastman’s efforts to keep the committee from accessing a tranche of emails related to his advice to Mr. Trump, a federal judge said that he and Mr. Trump “more likely than not” committed crimes as they sought to overturn the results of the e******n.

The memo from Mr. Jacob was one in a series that he wrote related to the pressure on Mr. Pence following the 2020 e******n. One came at the beginning of December, after Mr. Pence asked Mr. Jacob to explore what his authority was in relation to the J*** 6 certification.

Another memo, also obtained by Politico, was written on Jan. 1. It evaluated the various allegations of widespread fraud that Mr. Trump’s advisers had pointed to, including in Georgia, where Mr. Trump repeatedly made claims that officials said were baseless.

The memo detailed claims from six key states — the ones for which Mr. Pence’s advisers anticipated that House lawmakers would try to challenge the certification, potentially with support from senators from those states.
Mike Pence and J*** 6"

Maggie Haberman

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Jun 12, 2022 15:42:25   #
Rose42
 
Yes he did. We can only imagine the chaos and destruction that would have ensued if he hadn’t.

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Jun 12, 2022 17:15:06   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Rose42 wrote:
Yes he did. We can only imagine the chaos and destruction that would have ensued if he hadn’t.


Pence acted P**********l while Trump gleefully watched the fun for 187 minutes.
I didn’t think Pence had it in him.

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Jun 12, 2022 18:14:20   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Pence acted P**********l while Trump gleefully watched the fun for 187 minutes.
I didn’t think Pence had it in him.


Pence had a grip on reality and a lot of expert legal advice, including John Dean.

He was told not to get mixed up in any 'constitution flipping deals' cooked up by Trump and Ginny Thomas and the rest of them.

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Jun 12, 2022 18:26:01   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Pence acted P**********l while Trump gleefully watched the fun for 187 minutes.
I didn’t think Pence had it in him.


You didn't think that Pence had it in him because you live in a bubble.

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Jun 12, 2022 20:16:41   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
You didn't think that Pence had it in him because you live in a bubble.


God comeback. Some things never change.

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Jun 12, 2022 21:26:44   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Pence acted P**********l while Trump gleefully watched the fun for 187 minutes.
I didn’t think Pence had it in him.


Of the two men, only Trump was the incessant 'gorilla channel' watcher.

J** 6 and all the *pre-J** 6 plotting and picking bugs from each other ... that was the pinnacle of the old

'orange-back's' squalid existence and the loser can't let it go. TDS BIGLY


*He was working on cooking up 'constitution flipping deals' with Ginny Thomas and the rest of them.

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Jun 12, 2022 21:32:33   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
God comeback. Some things never change.


OK, so tell us, what is it about Pence's character that lead you to believe that Pence would not perform the constitutionally mandated procedure that he was charged with.

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Jun 13, 2022 09:11:18   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
OK, so tell us, what is it about Pence's character that lead you to believe that Pence would not perform the constitutionally mandated procedure that he was charged with.


Back off, will you? The man just posted an article supportive of Pence, then wrote that Pence's behavior was P**********l. Yet you still find the need to resort to ad hominem attacks against him. Why? Do you automatically h**e anyone to your left?

I am right of center and find the OP—whose name is not “9 volt”—to be a serious and thoughtful man. Of course I don’t agree with all he posts. So what?

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Jun 13, 2022 09:13:18   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Pence acted P**********l while Trump gleefully watched the fun for 187 minutes.
I didn’t think Pence had it in him.


I knew him from his days in Congress. VERY conservative, more so than I, but a thoroughly decent human being. When I said a very public prayer for the victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, he called me to thank me.

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Jun 13, 2022 09:17:35   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
I knew him from his days in Congress. VERY conservative, more so than I, but a thoroughly decent human being.


I believe that, but I admit that I sometimes questioned his motives that enabled him to support Trump for four years.
He came through on J****** 6th for sure.

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Jun 13, 2022 09:19:57   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I believe that, but I admit that I sometimes questioned his motives that enabled him to support Trump for four years.
He came through on J****** 6th for sure.


And that is a very fair question!

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Jun 13, 2022 09:24:40   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I believe that, but I admit that I sometimes questioned his motives that enabled him to support Trump for four years.
He came through on J****** 6th for sure.


Pence is not crazy.

He saw the legal and historical implications for anyone aiding and abetting treason to the Constitution.

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Jun 13, 2022 09:58:38   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Back off, will you? The man just posted an article supportive of Pence, then wrote that Pence's behavior was P**********l. Yet you still find the need to resort to ad hominem attacks against him. Why? Do you automatically h**e anyone to your left?

I am right of center and find the OP—whose name is not “9 volt”—to be a serious and thoughtful man. Of course I don’t agree with all he posts. So what?


I stopped calling him "9volt" months ago, you and I see things a bit differently with KMG, rather than praising Pence he had to add in that he "didn't think that he had it in him" and why would he think that? Maybe because he had a low opinion of Pence? In my opinion Pence is a very moral man who I have never seen do anything that he did not think was to the benefit of his constituents.

This man posts far left wing drivel day in and day out here, Jennifer Rubin seems to be his favorite contributor, his posts are generally so one sided that they rarely have any factual basis. Jennifer Rubin and some of the others he posts here are to the left what Glenn Beck and Mark Levin are to the right. You may consider him to be thoughtful I however don't.

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Jun 13, 2022 10:02:10   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I believe that, but I admit that I sometimes questioned his motives that enabled him to support Trump for four years.
He came through on J****** 6th for sure.


Maybe Pence didn't really support Trump for the entire 4 years, he may have feel that he needed to in public because of his position.

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