r1ch Loc: Colorado

While I love my R5, Canon made a big mistake imho. The Canon r5 (and I assume the other R series camera) cannot go into sleep mode. They only turn off and hitting the shutter button or other turns it back on. The ability to sleep or to turn off with shutter turn on saves precious battery power so you want your camera to sleep which you are setting up a photo. You might say, "so what, that is the same thing" And for the most part that would be true except.

Normally I would expect settings to be retained when the camera goes into sleep mode so when I take the shot it remembers I set the exposure compensation 1 stop underexposed or I changed over to manual mode, or set my ISO to auto or to 50. But it doesn't under these circumstances.

If I program custom setting C1 to have all my back button settings, auto ISO and to maintain at least shutter speed of 2000 it stores these settings. I change to C1 and all my settings are back ready to take some bird pictures. Let say I change the settings to 1 stop over for exposure compensation or I go to manual. If I wait too long long on my other cameras, they might go into sleep mode to concertgoer battery. If I wake it up, nothing is changed and I am ready to take the shot. The R5 does not have a sleep mode, it turns off so when I "wake it up" by half press the shutter the camera turns back on again and reloads the C1 settings erasing my temporary exposure compensation. I have to set it all back up again. You could set the timer to a long time so the camera does not turn itself off but then you lose the battery savings you get from sleep mode or turning off from inactivity.

This was presented to Canon and a firmware update was requested to have the ability to turn this on or off. But because the R5 has no sleep mode, they cannot or will not make the change.

My only recourse it to set the auto turn off to a super long time and the R5 then eats batteries like crazy. I guess there could be worse things but this is very annoying to me especially if you are using big lenses which draw more power.

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

I was experiencing this issue yesterday with my 7d MII. To describe the issue succinctly, if you temporarily override a custom function setting, when the camera goes to sleep, the override is forgotten. In my case, I have a custom function for exposure bracketing. But yesterday, I wanted to take 7 shots, not 5, and I wanted the exposure series shifted to the right. That worked fine until the camera went to sleep. The first time it did, I didn't notice until I took the shots and discovered I only took 5. I tried to work fast after that, but I still had to re-enter the overrides a couple of times.

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Hardly a unique glich. Life just sucks. I could list my own litany of such stuff, but I rather not wallow in it. Just keep calm and carry on.

r1ch Loc: Colorado

Not a deal breaker, but as you said it just sucks. This is such an easy thing to fix and it is logical to retain any temp setting changes to a C1,C2,C3 until the camera switch is switched off would just make sense, from a photographers perspective.

r1ch Loc: Colorado

Not as important on a DSLR, you just increase time limit, battery life is not as important because you are not using a EVF and a rear display at the same time. My DSLRs seem to last a lot longer in standby mode.

foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC

I believe this will solve your problem. https://support.usa.canon.com/kb/index?page=content&id=ART178295

I have suggested to Canon techs that they come out with a menu chart. Otherwise, the only way to find things is to scan thru the very large menu to find it. Then, as new firmware comes out, they can update it and allow people to download it off their website.

tcthome Loc: NJ

Heck, I would just extend the time to sleep & carry more battery. living with what you have.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Excellent! I don't recall having a camera that didn't take naps.

Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb

Yep. it's a problem. But knowing that I will take the extra step to set it permeant. And reset back at the end of the day. It's a nuisance but it is a new way wit the new camera. Not happy but aware.

MikeT9

If you set up your C1, 2 or 3 to auto update you don’t have this problem.

Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb

Thanks

r1ch Loc: Colorado

That defeats the purpose of having C1. If it auto updates, and you make a temp change the AF because you are struggling in low light but want it to whenever to change to C1 that it be in a specific AF mode, auto update changes settings that you want permanent.

r1ch Loc: Colorado

Thanks but I already mentioned that in my original post "You could set the timer to a long time so the camera does not turn itself off but then you lose the battery savings you get from sleep mode or turning off from inactivity. This is how you would do it for those who do not know.

r1ch Loc: Colorado

Well I am not going to get rid of the camera and I already have 3 batteries and am not buying more until one dies. Canon should just fix it. Only reset C1 setting if you physically turn the camera off with the on off button, or if you change from say C2 to C1 all the setting should be reset to C1 settings. Any temp changes should not be saved and should not be changed until the change in mode or physical button turn off.

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In a perfect new world, meaning when I become Tsar, you will select user options in the menu concerning whether changes are canceled or retained.

And also cocerning whether the MF magnifier cancels when you touch the shutter or requires another button push.

And whether the AF is at wide open or mid aperture.

And etcetcetc .....when I am Tsar, AND you will be forbidden from complaining that the menus are too complex ;-)