Which camera has the best kit lens?
May 25, 2022 13:15:46 #
revhen wrote:
Canon 80D or 90D with the 18-135mm super zoom make for an excellent general purpose basic camera with kit lens.
Nice range, except that its an SLR.
May 25, 2022 13:21:40 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You can’t just look at straight millimeters when talking difference in focal length. 4mm at 24mm is almost a 17% difference. 5mm at 50 is only a 10% difference and 3mm at 55 is less than 5.5%. When shooting wide angle 4mm can be the difference in getting the shot or not.
Its not 50 to 55. Its 45 to 55 or even 58mm. Theres little to no concern or discussion about that. Thaz 20% and nobody cares.
The 24 to 28mm issue boils down to minor variations of the 26mm FoV. Pragmatically, theres no there there. Another tempest in a teapot.
May 25, 2022 13:29:34 #
wdross wrote:
"Doldrums" usually is not an equipment problem. Look at some of the subjects being shot that catch your interest other than here on UHH and try shooting them yourself. Or even take a class from your local school, college, or camera store. Or sign up for a photo tour in the back of one of the photo magazines. Lots of ways to get out of the "doldrums ".
I find that oftentimes the solution is to simply take a little break from photography, focus on other hobbies. One can still use the off-time to think about new ideas and projects. Don't force inspiration, let it come naturally.
May 25, 2022 13:33:49 #
rook2c4 wrote:
I find that oftentimes the solution is to simply take a little break from photography, focus on other hobbies. One can still use the off-time to think about new ideas and projects. Don't force inspiration, let it come naturally.
Inspiration ??!?!
ROTFLMFAO.
May 25, 2022 13:38:51 #
Urnst
Loc: Brownsville, Texas
Delderby wrote:
MFT has been my thing since the Panasonic G1 was launched. However, I feel my photography is in the doldrums, and thought I'd try a larger sensor, but in a small and light MILC. All suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Del.
I have a Nikon D3400 with a 18-55mm kit lens that is sharp enough for me. I get it out when I need a change from MFT.
May 25, 2022 15:22:33 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
TriX wrote:
While 4/3rds is an excellent format, in my opinion... (show quote)
ISO and DR are less than APS-C, FF, and medium format except for the OM-1. And even the OM-1 does a high ISO not by standard pixels. But many times interior architecture is shot wide open. This is when 4/3rds shows its best. Diffraction is usually only an issue at f11 and greater. And the 7-14 f2.8 is basically a rectilinear lens. Interior architecture is one of the ways Thomas Stirr earns a living and he uses nothing but 4/3rds. Most architecture images are never going to be bigger than two pages. 20mp exceeds that two page requirement easily. And even if the requirement is bigger, then one shoots it at 80mp. Yes, APS-C, full frame, and medium format are used all the time for Interior architecture. But they actually are at a disadvantage compared to 4/3rds.
May 25, 2022 15:37:03 #
imagemeister wrote:
The lens on the Sony RX10m4 is AMAZING - as is the sensor .....thinking of selling my full frame Sony ....and crop frame Canon...
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Thanks for the tip - I've just had a look at the reviews - yes the Sony is AMAZING. I'm sure other Hedgehogs will be most interested. Looks like photography gear is going to see some huge changes very soon.
For myself I'm looking at doing some swaps, but have decided to stay with Panny ftb. I haven't had a Sony since the R1 - that was also amazing about two decades ago.
May 25, 2022 16:03:38 #
wdross wrote:
ISO and DR are less than APS-C, FF, and medium for... (show quote)
I would disagree that interior architecture is typically shot wide open. Even in a dimly lit environment which doesn’t allow a flash, which is a normal procedure (such as the interior of a cathedral), apertures in the f5.6-f8 (for DOF) range are typical without unreasonable ISOs given modern image stabilization. I just finished post processing some images taken inside a VERY dark basilica with a Fuji 24MP with a 23mm f2 at f5.6-f8 at 1/25 and ISO 2000, and if I had an IBIS body or lens, I would have shot slower. Noise is not visible and the DOF is adequate that from the rear of the church to the alter is in focus. And btw, I try not to shoot beyond f11 on ff or f8 on a crop body to avoid diffraction, so I would certainly not compromise sharpness on a m43 shooting at f11 if I had a choice. I will post the images later.
Again, m43 is an excellent format for many reasons including size and weight, but if you’re a pro shooting architectural interiors without flash, it’s not the best choice, and if you’re using flash or shooting exteriors you have enough light that you have wide latitude for aperture and DOF for m43, crop or FF (or MF).
May 26, 2022 00:51:57 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
TriX wrote:
I would disagree that interior architecture is typ... (show quote)
Again, Thomas Stirr is willing to stake his architecture shooting on 4/3rds over other formats. If the exposure is the same, he knows he will have a depth of field that is two stops bigger than full frame. And if the light level is low enough, to get the same depth of field as the 4/3rds, the aperture will have to be closed down two stops for full frame. Now the full frame will have to have an adjustment of two stops using ISO and/or shutter speed. This could be a problem in the need of a tripod or dealing with noise. Yes, there are exposure areas that are bright enough that no format is at a disadvantage. But there are times when 4/3rds has that advantage that Thomas Stirr depends on making his living with.
May 26, 2022 09:32:45 #
wdross wrote:
Again, Thomas Stirr is willing to stake his archit... (show quote)
Arguably, image stabilization, especially in the OM-1 and GH6, is a factor in Micro 4/3's favor, too.
That said, architecture can benefit from a large format film camera's swings, tilts, and huge negative. Sure, software can do perspective corrections, but you can do them in the camera with a 4x5. It's an awfully slow, but satisfyingly precise, way to work.
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