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May 21, 2022 13:20:33   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I should have been more clear, I was referring to your first sentence but failed to include that. Yet, you didn't address the first sentence in your response to me because you knew it was BS.


Anytime someone talks about keeping a dime, or a pill, between their knees, it is the act of what they consider to be promiscuous sex that motivates them, at least in my opinion.

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May 21, 2022 14:15:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"Olahome lawmakers pass bill banning a******ns after fertilization"

"Oklahoma lawmakers on Thursday passed a bill that would ban a******ns from the moment of “fertilization,” effectively prohibiting almost all a******ns in the state.
If signed into law by Gov. Kevin Stitt (R), it would be the strictest prohibition in the country and further change the national landscape for a******n, as millions of patients face the prospect of traveling hundreds of miles to undergo the procedure in the face of multiple states imposing severe limits. Oklahoma had been a refuge for some women from neighboring Texas, where a six-week ban went into effect last year.

Stitt has said he wanted Oklahoma to be “the most pro-life state in the country,” and Republicans there have sought to make the state the vanguard in banning a******n. Two weeks ago, Stitt signed into law a prohibition on a******ns in the state for pregnancies past six weeks, and now he will have an opportunity to impose more far-reaching restrictions.

The Supreme Court is expected to issue its decision next month on the fate of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision guaranteeing a nationwide right to a******n. In anticipation of the court overturning Roe, Republicans in dozens of states have rushed to write laws that would severely restrict a******n access or ban the procedure.

The Oklahoma bill is similar in its enforcement mechanism to the one that was signed into law in Texas last year, allowing civilians to file lawsuits against those who perform or help facilitate an a******n.

Under the bill, those who could be sued include anyone who “performs or induces” an a******n; anyone who “knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets the performance or inducement of an a******n,” including paying for one; and anyone who even “intends to engage” in either of the two actions above.

The bill states a lawsuit cannot be brought against a woman who had or seeks to have an a******n.

The ban could take effect once the governor signs the measure because the bill is modeled after the restrictive Texas law that has evaded court intervention with a novel legal strategy that empowers private citizens to enforce the law. The Supreme Court and other courts have said they cannot block those bans even though they are at odds with Roe.
The bill defines “fertilization” as the moment a sperm meets the egg. It explicitly allows for the use of the Plan B pill, a widely used form of emergency contraception, but would prohibit medical a******ns using pills. The bill exempts from its definition of a******n any procedure to “save the life or preserve the health of the unborn child,” to “remove a dead unborn child caused by spontaneous a******n” or to remove an ectopic pregnancy, in which the fetus grows outside the uterus.

The bill makes exceptions for a******n if it is “necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman in a medical emergency” or if the pregnancy is the result of rape, sexual assault or incest that has been reported to law enforcement.
The bill passed the Oklahoma House on a 73-to-16 v**e Thursday after impassioned debate.

“There is no higher principle than the protection of innocent life,” Oklahoma state Rep. Jim Olsen (R) said during floor debate. “Innocent, unborn life. There can be no higher cause that we as a body can address.”
Rep. Monroe Nichols (D) responded that “there is another innocent life that we should also be thinking about” — the life of the pregnant person who is facing the decision of whether to have an a******n.

“I think we can’t lose that because of our aversion to something that we believe to be evil,” Nichols said, adding that the legislation would essentially put people who have a******ns “on trial.”

Rep. Wendi Stearman (R), the bill’s sponsor, hailed passage of the measure, which heads to Stitt and would go into effect immediately if he signs it into law.

“It is my sincere hope that, in addition to the criminal bill passed this session, this civil liability bill will provide strong, additional protection of the life of unborn children in Oklahoma,” Stearman said in a news release.

The v**e came around the time Vice President Harris was holding a virtual meeting Thursday afternoon with a******n providers about reproductive rights. Harris condemned the Oklahoma ban, calling it “one of the most extreme a******n bans in the country — a ban that would outlaw a******n from the moment of fertilization.”
“Now, think about that for a second: from the moment of fertilization,” Harris said. “It’s outrageous, and it’s just the latest in a series of extreme laws around the country.”

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre called the Oklahoma ban “the most extreme effort” so far to undo the constitutional right to a******n. President Biden “is committed to standing up for these constitutional rights, and for protecting Americans’ fundamental freedoms," she said.

“This is part of a growing effort by ultra MAGA officials across the country to roll back the freedoms we should not take for granted in this country,” Jean-Pierre said of the Oklahoma ban. “They are starting with reproductive rights, but the American people need to know that other fundamental rights, including the right to contraception and marriage e******y, are at risk.”

On Thursday, Planned Parenthood vowed to take Oklahoma to court over the legislation, saying the ban “must be stopped.”

“The Oklahoma legislature just passed a total ban on a******n, enforced by private citizens,” the pro-a******n rights group tweeted. “This ban will take effect as soon as the governor signs the bill, making Oklahoma the first state to outlaw a******n entirely — even while Roe v. Wade still stands.”"

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We the people determine what we want.
Is that not the mantra of the left?
Except when it does not fit their agenda then they force people to do their will or face utter destruction.

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May 21, 2022 14:25:59   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Who takes care of the children when they are unwanted by their biological parents?


So we should now allow parents to k**l their unwanted children?

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May 21, 2022 15:01:26   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
papakatz45 wrote:
So we should now allow parents to k**l their unwanted children?


Only in your little mind are they “children “ we allow women to abort fetuses according to the law.

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May 21, 2022 15:25:24   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Only in your little mind are they “children “ we allow women to abort fetuses according to the law.


In the absence of a mind you think they are not children. Science disagrees with you.

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May 21, 2022 15:44:10   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Racmanaz wrote:
In the absence of a mind you think they are not children. Science disagrees with you.


Since when do you believe in science.

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May 21, 2022 15:49:47   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Since when do you believe in science.


No, the question is since when did YOU believe in science? Oh that's right you don't.

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May 21, 2022 18:14:19   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Only in your little mind are they “children “ we allow women to abort fetuses according to the law.


What law?

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May 21, 2022 18:59:21   #
Triple G
 
Racmanaz wrote:
No, the question is since when did YOU believe in science? Oh that's right you don't.


You’re one of the flip flopper from the 1970’s. What a throwback to 50 years ago!

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May 21, 2022 19:01:50   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
You’re one of the flip flopper from the 1970’s. What a throwback to 50 years ago!


Makes no sense, what are you even talking about?

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May 21, 2022 19:02:39   #
Triple G
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Makes no sense, what are you even talking about?


https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-policy-history/article/abs/gops-a******n-strategy-why-prochoice-republicans-became-prolife-in-the-1970s/C7EC0E0C0F5FF1F4488AA47C787DEC01

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May 21, 2022 19:11:56   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-policy-history/article/abs/gops-a******n-strategy-why-prochoice-republicans-became-prolife-in-the-1970s/C7EC0E0C0F5FF1F4488AA47C787DEC01


Still makes no sense, what does that have to do with what I posted? For one, I'm not s
A member of the GOP nor did the GOP flip flop on the issue which is irrelevant anyway. Heck, Joe Biden was a pro-lifer till he wasn't, then was and then wasn't. Again, what does this have to do with me?

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May 21, 2022 19:36:51   #
Triple G
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Still makes no sense, what does that have to do with what I posted? For one, I'm not s
A member of the GOP nor did the GOP flip flop on the issue which is irrelevant anyway. Heck, Joe Biden was a pro-lifer till he wasn't, then was and then wasn't. Again, what does this have to do with me?


How does the science differ between 1970 and now? If a******n was okay in 1970 for the GOP, then why not now? If a super MAGA like you isn’t GOP, how do you identify yourself?

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May 21, 2022 19:53:03   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
How does the science differ between 1970 and now? If a******n was okay in 1970 for the GOP, then why not now? If a super MAGA like you isn’t GOP, how do you identify yourself?


You assume too much, I'm not a super MAGA nor a GOP member. I am a registered Independent that leans Conservative.

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May 21, 2022 20:13:44   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
thom w wrote:
The same can be said of everyone who is against a******n.


Well at least they are not hypocrites, then.

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