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May 14, 2022 12:26:16   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
SteveR wrote:
Here's a recipe for home made formula. One of my wife's sisters was raised on it and was approved by the pediatrician. Maybe it would come in handy if everything else failed. It includes a little karo syrup, evaporated milk and water.

https://www.hellomotherhood.com/make-baby-formula-karo-syrup-4840860.html

I was raised on homemade formula, if you could even call it that back then. Baby food didn't always come in a jar at the super market!

bwa

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May 14, 2022 12:51:26   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Sorry...incorrect.

The US Govt. runs a program called WICA ... and is the largest purchaser of baby formula ...bar none.

That's fine.

Here's where govt. incompetence comes in (as usual).

Abbott is the SOLE supplier...and the Govt...wait for it...gets a kickback (they call it a rebate lol) of up to 85% of the wholesale price.

Basically...Abbott pays to keep a monopoly.

Okay...let's say you are fine with this sort of public interference in the free market...we need formula after all for the underprivileged.

Well...back to govt. incompetence...since they have a sweet deal going on (at your expense btw)...they kept all of the eggs in one basket...the Abbott basket...in a single factory in Michigan.

Next up...the same Govt. (FDA) declares a contamination at Abbott. Abbott voluntarily shuts down.

All those WICA recipients now have NO FORMULA...they panic (rightfully so)...the govt. grants cross branding...and voila...the market is instantly inundated with customers...desperate to feed their babies.

The Govt. knew there was a problem in February...and did...nothing.

Now they are out full force...blaming...mothers.

3rd world governing folks.
Sorry...incorrect. br br The US Govt. runs a prog... (show quote)


WICA? Now you've got witches involved in this.

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May 14, 2022 13:21:45   #
alexol
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Sorry...incorrect.

The US Govt. runs a program called WICA ... and is the largest purchaser of baby formula ...bar none.

That's fine.

Here's where govt. incompetence comes in (as usual).

Abbott is the SOLE supplier...and the Govt...wait for it...gets a kickback (they call it a rebate lol) of up to 85% of the wholesale price.

Basically...Abbott pays to keep a monopoly.

Okay...let's say you are fine with this sort of public interference in the free market...we need formula after all for the underprivileged.

Well...back to govt. incompetence...since they have a sweet deal going on (at your expense btw)...they kept all of the eggs in one basket...the Abbott basket...in a single factory in Michigan.

Next up...the same Govt. (FDA) declares a contamination at Abbott. Abbott voluntarily shuts down.

All those WICA recipients now have NO FORMULA...they panic (rightfully so)...the govt. grants cross branding...and voila...the market is instantly inundated with customers...desperate to feed their babies.

The Govt. knew there was a problem in February...and did...nothing.

Now they are out full force...blaming...mothers.

3rd world governing folks.
Sorry...incorrect. br br The US Govt. runs a prog... (show quote)


Thats a lot more info than I had found.

That very definitely makes our governmental system look atrocious!

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May 14, 2022 13:26:27   #
Triple G
 
Wuligal wrote:
I'm not recommending anything but with two of our sons (sensitive digestive tracts) we switched to goat milk and everything worked out fine. We even had our own goat.


Way to go! We had access to goat milk also which was a major plus.

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May 14, 2022 13:27:56   #
Triple G
 
sheldon minsky wrote:
Why? Do we know have a different strain of children?


The knowledge of grandmas and mothers for generations was passed down….Mom’s nowadays have mostly YouTube.

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May 14, 2022 13:28:16   #
Triple G
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Sorry...incorrect.

The US Govt. runs a program called WICA ... and is the largest purchaser of baby formula ...bar none.

That's fine.

Here's where govt. incompetence comes in (as usual).

Abbott is the SOLE supplier...and the Govt...wait for it...gets a kickback (they call it a rebate lol) of up to 85% of the wholesale price.

Basically...Abbott pays to keep a monopoly.

Okay...let's say you are fine with this sort of public interference in the free market...we need formula after all for the underprivileged.

Well...back to govt. incompetence...since they have a sweet deal going on (at your expense btw)...they kept all of the eggs in one basket...the Abbott basket...in a single factory in Michigan.

Next up...the same Govt. (FDA) declares a contamination at Abbott. Abbott voluntarily shuts down.

All those WICA recipients now have NO FORMULA...they panic (rightfully so)...the govt. grants cross branding...and voila...the market is instantly inundated with customers...desperate to feed their babies.

The Govt. knew there was a problem in February...and did...nothing.

Now they are out full force...blaming...mothers.

3rd world governing folks.
Sorry...incorrect. br br The US Govt. runs a prog... (show quote)


They have a very BIG Lobby group!

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May 14, 2022 13:31:22   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Sorry...incorrect.

The US Govt. runs a program called WICA ... and is the largest purchaser of baby formula ...bar none.

That's fine.

Here's where govt. incompetence comes in (as usual).

Abbott is the SOLE supplier...and the Govt...wait for it...gets a kickback (they call it a rebate lol) of up to 85% of the wholesale price.

Basically...Abbott pays to keep a monopoly.

Okay...let's say you are fine with this sort of public interference in the free market...we need formula after all for the underprivileged.

Well...back to govt. incompetence...since they have a sweet deal going on (at your expense btw)...they kept all of the eggs in one basket...the Abbott basket...in a single factory in Michigan.

Next up...the same Govt. (FDA) declares a contamination at Abbott. Abbott voluntarily shuts down.

All those WICA recipients now have NO FORMULA...they panic (rightfully so)...the govt. grants cross branding...and voila...the market is instantly inundated with customers...desperate to feed their babies.

The Govt. knew there was a problem in February...and did...nothing.

Now they are out full force...blaming...mothers.

3rd world governing folks.
Sorry...incorrect. br br The US Govt. runs a prog... (show quote)


It is WIC, Special supplemental nutrition program for Women, Infants and Children.

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May 14, 2022 14:25:02   #
alexol
 
Sounds to be about as completely f'd up as Medicare drug purchasing methods.

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May 14, 2022 14:29:58   #
Triple G
 
alexol wrote:
Sounds to be about as completely f'd up as Medicare drug purchasing methods.


Yup…who in their right mind agrees to no negotiation process?

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May 14, 2022 18:36:24   #
srg
 
alexol wrote:
Perhaps less the fault of the government (not a formula producing organization) and more that of Abbott Medical ( a formula producing organization which closed it's plant due to contamination).

Amazing how quickly things become political, although not only on here. Whichever side you are on, it's usually the other side to blame, while your side does things just right.

Maybe we should take some lessons from some aspects of Japanese life - there's a problem, let's fix it and learn something instead of wasting time and energy, pointing fingers and increasing division.
Perhaps less the fault of the government (not a fo... (show quote)


Naaahhh.... that would require intelligence.

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May 14, 2022 19:34:03   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
srg wrote:
Naaahhh.... that would require intelligence.


andno rebates (kickbacks)

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May 14, 2022 22:15:55   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
clint f. wrote:
It is WIC, Special supplemental nutrition program for Women, Infants and Children.


WICA, though, provides condensed milk from witches' teets.

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May 15, 2022 12:06:31   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
SteveR wrote:
WICA, though, provides condensed milk from witches' teets.


👍

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May 15, 2022 16:02:20   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
alexol wrote:
Perhaps less the fault of the government (not a formula producing organization) and more that of Abbott Medical ( a formula producing organization which closed it's plant due to contamination).

Amazing how quickly things become political, although not only on here. Whichever side you are on, it's usually the other side to blame, while your side does things just right.

Maybe we should take some lessons from some aspects of Japanese life - there's a problem, let's fix it and learn something instead of wasting time and energy, pointing fingers and increasing division.
Perhaps less the fault of the government (not a fo... (show quote)


Yes indeed!

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