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May 12, 2022 09:06:34   #
bnsf
 
When you are talking about computer memory you must look and see how much memory the motherboard can support. I would install 2 64GB of memory added to the memory you have in the computer already. Next, I would check your video card and see how much internal memory the card has built into it. Video cards that you add on usually come with 16gb of memory for a good video card but a lot of video cards are built right into the motherboard.
If you are just editing photos or videos then 64gb would be good.

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May 12, 2022 09:09:02   #
bnsf
 
When you are talking about computer memory you must look and see how much memory the motherboard can support. I would install 2 64GB of memory added to the memory you have in the computer already. Next, I would check your video card and see how much internal memory the card has built into it. Video cards that you add on usually come with 16gb of memory for a good video card but a lot of video cards are built right into the motherboard.
If you are just editing photos or videos then 64gb would be good.

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May 12, 2022 09:11:09   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Imagemine wrote:
seems to be a lot of talk about how much memory to have on a computer , my method is make a folder label it with date then upload 30 images then transfer it to my ssd external 1 TB hard drive . Doesn't hurt to have a good computer with lots of space . My gole is to take & edit images not to worry about my gear . Just a rant & hope it helps someone. All said I have gotten some good advice from people on the Hog .


I guess that you are asking for discussion?
Here is my nickel.
Now the amount of storage memory and number of backups recommended here on UHH may be summed up by saying ". . . .too much ($$$$) is never enough!” No insult intended. Personally, I’m not a fan of “Cloud Backup Services”. I always start to search for more or larger external hard drives (HD) whenever my existing external hard drives reach two-thirds of their capacity.
First, you must decide what kind of backup you require: Full, Differential, or Incremental Backup. “Other backup types include synthetic full backups and mirroring. In the debate over cloud vs. local backup.” https://www.google.com/search?q=types+of+computer+data+backup&oq=types+of+computer+backup&aqs=chrome.5.0i512j69i57j0i512j0i22i30l5j0i390.24131j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Now, how I investigate my RAM usage/requirements.
Open everything that you normally have open when you are processing pics. While using Google Chrome, I usually have 10 - 15 pages open, and 5 PP Programs open at one time.
While holding down the CTRL and ALT tabs hit delete to open your task manager on a Windoze machine. Old School I know, but easier to do instead of searching for it.
When the "Task Manager" opens click on "Performance".
Now load a large pic Raw file into a heavy RAM hog like Topaz Sharpen AI, or Topaz DeNoise AI and "Save".
While your computer is chugging along bring back the "Task Manager" using ALT/TAB and observe first hand if the Processor or Memory (RAM) is a problem.

My fully burdened computer with a I7 6700 processor and 16 GB of RAM, the "Task Manager Performance" graphs usually read:
CPU: 48% with a short spike to 85% at the start of processing.
RAM: 11.1 - 11.3 GB out of 16 GB available.

These results lead me to believe that I currently have enough Processor and RAM available, saving me $$$.
Constructive comments please, whether you agree or disagree.

Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

PS: Since I’m Not a Computer Guy,
Constructive Second Nickels Are Always Welcome.
Like Yogi Berra said, "A nickel ain't worth two cents anymore."

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May 12, 2022 10:02:42   #
Imagemine Loc: St. Louis USA
 
That's a good one to break up technical talk ☻

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May 12, 2022 10:03:35   #
Imagemine Loc: St. Louis USA
 
Like this post too !

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May 12, 2022 10:14:45   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Imagemine wrote:
That's a good one to break up technical talk ☻


No offense intended, but if you click on "Quote Reply" we will know which post you are commenting on.
Thanks

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May 12, 2022 10:19:23   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
flip1948 wrote:
You are talking about storage memory.

Generally concerns about memory have to do with RAM or Video RAM in order to run post processing software. Many of these programs need copious amounts of each to run efficiently.


Exactly.

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May 12, 2022 10:50:11   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
I'm not well informed bout how computers work, I do have an understanding of how to operate one. The way I understand them is there are several types of memory within a computer. Basically the RAM (Random Access Memory) is used for actually moving things around or changing the content. ROM (Read Only Memory) is the storage memory where files are read and moved into RAM for adjustments and when adjusted are placed back in ROM. As for the other types, DRAM, PROM, EROM or whatever, I'm lost.

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May 12, 2022 12:15:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
I'm not well informed bout how computers work, I do have an understanding of how to operate one. The way I understand them is there are several types of memory within a computer. Basically the RAM (Random Access Memory) is used for actually moving things around or changing the content. ROM (Read Only Memory) is the storage memory where files are read and moved into RAM for adjustments and when adjusted are placed back in ROM. As for the other types, DRAM, PROM, EROM or whatever, I'm lost.

SRAM = Static Random Access Memory (does not require refresh cycles to retain contents, just power).
DRAM = Dynamic Random Access Memory: What your computer uses to run your programs. Needs refresh cycles.
PROM = Programmable Read Only Memory: Storage for permanent system programs. Not erasable/changeable.
EPROM = Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (erasable by UV light).
EEPROM = Electrically Erasable Read Only Memory (The computer can alter the contents if need be, but primarily read only, like possibly for the BIOS (Basic Input/Output System which lets your computer get its marbles together.) which can be modified.

SRAM and DRAM loose their contents upon power down, *ROMs do not.

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May 12, 2022 14:25:32   #
niteman3d Loc: South Central Pennsylvania, USA
 
I had to read it twice, but I think the OP knows full well what memory is in question and people use the weak link (they think, anyway) in their chain as an excuse to spend money or not shoot when all it would really take is a fifty dollar (or less) external HDD or SSD to be in business till the computer quit... potentially many years down the road. The OP puts the shots from an outing on the computer hard drive and then transfers them onto an organized external drive. This isn't the super fastest method, but it surely works. Two externals equal backup and three equal redundant backup. I think the rant was more about people using lack of equipment as an excuse not to shoot and have fun?? Instead of a discussion about memory types, I'm betting it should be about motivation??

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May 12, 2022 14:34:33   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
chrissybabe wrote:
Nothing like it what-so-ever. For starters if you turn off the computer the disks still hold the contents. Turn off the person and the contents are gone forever. And many more differences. Anyway it still holds that disk storage memory and computer memory are two totally different things. If you can grasp that concept then many other problems/queries you might have will be much more understandable. If anything, to go along with your idea, a persons memory is more similar to the memory of a computer. Turn either of them off and the contents are lost.
Nothing like it what-so-ever. For starters if you ... (show quote)


It wasn't al;ways that way. In the days of magnetic core memory. it was possible to hit the Stop Button and turn the computer off. Then you could turn it back on, press the Start button, and it would resume from where it stopped. It is possible that the same could be done in the future. There are some who think that the SSD is the precursor to unifying the system drive and the computer memory.

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May 12, 2022 14:51:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TheShoe wrote:
It wasn't al;ways that way. In the days of magnetic core memory. it was possible to hit the Stop Button and turn the computer off. Then you could turn it back on, press the Start button, and it would resume from where it stopped. It is possible that the same could be done in the future. There are some who think that the SSD is the precursor to unifying the system drive and the computer memory.


Core memory is non-volatile.

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May 12, 2022 16:46:56   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Longshadow wrote:
SRAM = Static Random Access Memory (does not require refresh cycles to retain contents, just power).
DRAM = Dynamic Random Access Memory: What your computer uses to run your programs. Needs refresh cycles.
PROM = Programmable Read Only Memory: Storage for permanent system programs. Not erasable/changeable.
EPROM = Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (erasable by UV light).
EEPROM = Electrically Erasable Read Only Memory (The computer can alter the contents if need be, but primarily read only, like possibly for the BIOS (Basic Input/Output System which lets your computer get its marbles together.) which can be modified.

SRAM and DRAM loose their contents upon power down, *ROMs do not.
SRAM = Static Random Access Memory (does not requi... (show quote)


Thanks for posting.
I try to learn something every day.
JimmyT Sends,

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May 12, 2022 16:54:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Thanks for posting.
I try to learn something every day.
JimmyT Sends,

I forgot to add ROM, Read Only Memory, not alterable. A general term for all types.
If it was alterable, it would not be Read ONLY Memory...

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May 12, 2022 17:18:41   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
TheShoe wrote:
It wasn't al;ways that way. In the days of magnetic core memory. it was possible to hit the Stop Button and turn the computer off. Then you could turn it back on, press the Start button, and it would resume from where it stopped. It is possible that the same could be done in the future. There are some who think that the SSD is the precursor to unifying the system drive and the computer memory.

I didn't want to confuse anybody by raising the issue of magnetic core memory. Enough people on here use various terms so loosely and get confused that that would have been another.

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