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May 4, 2022 04:37:12   #
2nefoto
 
Relatively candid photo for figured mature woman relaxing. Nikon d750 16-35 mm f4



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May 4, 2022 04:54:34   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
2nefoto wrote:
Relatively candid photo for figured mature woman relaxing. Nikon d750 16-35 mm f4


Very nice!!
Lovely young lady

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May 4, 2022 04:56:05   #
2nefoto
 
Thank you for your early-morning reply

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May 4, 2022 05:02:56   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
2nefoto wrote:
Thank you for your early-morning reply


A pleasant eye opener
Full figured women have always been difficult for me to photograph nude and make the photo classy and sexy.

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May 4, 2022 06:54:22   #
Stephan G
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
A pleasant eye opener
Full figured women have always been difficult for me to photograph nude and make the photo classy and sexy.


Sir Peter Paul Rubens is a good source.


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May 4, 2022 07:02:28   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Stephan G wrote:
Sir Peter Paul Rubens is a good source.



A good source for what?
Have you ever tried to find Models that resembles a Rubens subject?
They are not full figured !! They are fairly tall, small breasted, big hips and slender ankles.
If I could have found models with the build I would have tried to emulate Rubens work.

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May 4, 2022 08:09:59   #
Stephan G
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
A good source for what?
Have you ever tried to find Models that resembles a Rubens subject?
They are not full figured !! They are fairly tall, small breasted, big hips and slender ankles.
If I could have found models with the build I would have tried to emulate Rubens work.


A start to see what can be done.

You have set a standard in your mind that affected your view of available models around you. Just look at your stated description.

The real issue is the stranglehold attitude as to what determines "beauty", especially in terms of naked bodies. The subject is replete with examples through the ages. The rationale runs a full gamut which does reach beyond this thread and venue.

My point is to give a start for those who want to work with a "Rubenesque" figure. We are not limited to the ideals of the 1600s. Nor are we anchored down with Twiggynesque models. (1960s)

Everyone has beauty regardless of size or shape. It is something that as photographers, we should appreciate and try to show whenever we can.

I do agree that there are no models fitting the general shapes of Rubens artwork. Never existed outside his mind. They were his interpretations to meet the standards of his time, and place. However, it does not mean that we have to limit ourselves to the standards declared in our time, and place.

Because Rubens had to work on "classic" Art to get around the "standards", we have to do better. I do hope that UHH will continue to allow for Photography, in general, as opposed to whatever "sells".

I support the presentation. It is done well.

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May 4, 2022 08:18:06   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Stephan G wrote:
A start to see what can be done.

You have set a standard in your mind that affected your view of available models around you. Just look at your stated description.

The real issue is the stranglehold attitude as to what determines "beauty", especially in terms of naked bodies. The subject is replete with examples through the ages. The rationale runs a full gamut which does reach beyond this thread and venue.

My point is to give a start for those who want to work with a "Rubenesque" figure. We are not limited to the ideals of the 1600s. Nor are we anchored down with Twiggynesque models. (1960s)

Everyone has beauty regardless of size or shape. It is something that as photographers, we should appreciate and try to show whenever we can.

I do agree that there are no models fitting the general shapes of Rubens artwork. Never existed outside his mind. They were his interpretations to meet the standards of his time, and place. However, it does not mean that we have to limit ourselves to the standards declared in our time, and place.

Because Rubens had to work on "classic" Art to get around the "standards", we have to do better. I do hope that UHH will continue to allow for Photography, in general, as opposed to whatever "sells".

I support the presentation. It is done well.
A start to see what can be done. br br You have... (show quote)

I disagree with your statement on Rubenesque figures, if I am trying to emulate his work it should look close to his work. Otherwise it would be my style

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May 4, 2022 09:14:41   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Very nice!!
Lovely young lady


👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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May 4, 2022 09:25:33   #
Stephan G
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I disagree with your statement on Rubenesque figures, if I am trying to emulate his work it should look close to his work. Otherwise it would be my style


Then, the likelier term would be to "mimic" than to "emulate".

I enjoyed my Comparative Art courses in college, years back. After roughly six decades, I still continue to learn.

The earliest female form I viewed was an actual Paleolithic "Venus" figurine at the Chicago Art Institute, years back.

Also one of the artists that piqued my interest was Tamara de Lempicka. ("Recent age".)

My point was and is that we should not straitjacket ourselves.

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May 4, 2022 10:05:27   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Stephan G wrote:
Then, the likelier term would be to "mimic" than to "emulate".

I enjoyed my Comparative Art courses in college, years back. After roughly six decades, I still continue to learn.

The earliest female form I viewed was an actual Paleolithic "Venus" figurine at the Chicago Art Institute, years back.

Also one of the artists that piqued my interest was Tamara de Lempicka. ("Recent age".)

My point was and is that we should not straitjacket ourselves.
Then, the likelier term would be to "mimic&qu... (show quote)


If you say so, I don't consider myself in a straitjacket, one of these days maybe it will happen if not oh well.

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May 4, 2022 10:07:59   #
Stephan G
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
If you say so, I don't consider myself in a straitjacket, one of these days maybe it will happen if not oh well.


I have already tried on a couple. I am right there with you. LOL

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May 4, 2022 14:11:53   #
PhotoSteve Loc: South Carolina
 
The presentation of the young lady was both sexy and pleasant. The photographer has drawn our eyes to her face and more specifically her eyes. While she may be different than society's idea of the ideal sexy woman, you can see she is happy and confident within her own skin. To me, the picture was well done and beautiful art. If it were my wife, I would be proud to have that picture enlarged and printed. As my friend says "Big girls need love too"

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May 4, 2022 16:37:25   #
Catnlion Loc: Arizona City, Arizona
 
PhotoSteve wrote:
As my friend says "Big girls need love too"


While I like a lot of the models here there are those of us who really like the BBW women.

Frankly when I see some of the ladies here all I see is ribs and I start looking for BBQ sauce. I was thinking a while back a bottle of Hines 57 sauce would make a good prop for her.

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May 5, 2022 07:58:45   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
Nicely captured, but not my "cuppa tea"!

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