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Apr 27, 2022 08:25:35   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 years ago and decided to replace the battery, keeping the old one as a backup. Based on Hogger advice, I purchased a Nikon battery (rather than a generic) and when it arrived, I compared the old and new batteries.

The battery on the left came with the camera and the right one is from Nikon. Since the original is labeled "FOR NIKON..." am I to assume it is not a Nikon battery? Interesting then, that B & H's camera was sold with a non-OEM battery.

Also interesting that the original battery is 7.4 volts (and 1,800 milliamp hours) while the Nikon is 7.2 volts (at 1230 milliamp hours). While I'm not concerned with the difference in milliamp hours, why would there be a different voltage?


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Apr 27, 2022 08:44:08   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
fourlocks wrote:
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 years ago and decided to replace the battery, keeping the old one as a backup. Based on Hogger advice, I purchased a Nikon battery (rather than a generic) and when it arrived, I compared the old and new batteries.

The battery on the left came with the camera and the right one is from Nikon. Since the original is labeled "FOR NIKON..." am I to assume it is not a Nikon battery? Interesting then, that B & H's camera was sold with a non-OEM battery.

Also interesting that the original battery is 7.4 volts (and 1,800 milliamp hours) while the Nikon is 7.2 volts (at 1230 milliamp hours). While I'm not concerned with the difference in milliamp hours, why would there be a different voltage?
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 yea... (show quote)


When did you buy the second battery?

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Apr 27, 2022 08:47:15   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
When did you buy the second battery?


About a year ago. Actually, I just compared the two side by side, the other day.

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Apr 27, 2022 08:50:07   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
fourlocks wrote:
About a year ago. Actually, I just compared the two side by side, the other day.


Just an idea here, when you purchased the camera I assume it was new, however if it was part of a "package" they sometimes supply and after market battery.

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Apr 27, 2022 09:55:51   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
fourlocks B&H has a deceptive paradigm of selling GRAY market without clearly disclosing this in their "Sales" listing page. They are actually getting more aggressive and deviously in pushing GRAY stock lately. Sad but true...

Bottom Line? The traditionally NikonUSA serial numbers' had the first digit of 3xxxxxx. This was used by Nikon for many years however the only way to (absolutely) identify a NikonUSA body is to match the body serial number to the original box. The serial number printed on the box will have a "(U)" next to it, indicating it was imported by NikonUSA. That said, a serial number beginning with 3 and with 0 as the second digit is almost always a NikonUSA product. a.k.a. Nikon Services will work on these bodies... Others? Nope, you're SOL and are stuck with third party service providers (a crap shoot at best).

Case in point with B&H selling GRAY: fourlocks I'm only here to help my other UHH colleagues comprehend "the complexities latent within the arena of "Authorized" vendors of Nikon Kit" And some of the devious ways they prey on the naive. Again take B&H in this example. They are likely one of the largest major vendor who is also guilty of selling "Gray Market" Nikon product.

What? How can that be? B&H are in the game to turn a "trick" and even worse mascaraed as a "Nikon Authorized Dealer" while they are actually selling GRAY MARKET!
See image below where in fine print they state "B&H Warranty Only" but still have the audacity to place a "Nikon Authorized Dealer" Logo Statement prominent (in color) on the upper right hand corner.

An Attorney would recognize this use of that Logo in this page could be construed as "false or misleading with intent to deceive". As such that would constitute "Misrepresentation" which is one the elements of common law fraud.

See below:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333200-GREY/nikon_d7500_dslr_camera_with.html
Noticed embedded in the URL code the word GREY! Yep, how often do you actually check URL's fourlocks?

Note: This URL may be taken down since B&H actually has agents embedded here on UHH to do damage control (Henry and Hershel who are very conscientious gentlemen) but are Employed by B&H nonetheless. However the screen capture below bears witness to this inference.
The camera advertised here is GRAY MARKET Period! Nikon Services US will not touch it. Caveat Emptor!

B&H GRAY MARKET Nikon D7500 DSLR Camera with 18-140mm Lens (However not advertised as such).


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Apr 27, 2022 10:04:03   #
BebuLamar
 
fourlocks wrote:
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 years ago and decided to replace the battery, keeping the old one as a backup. Based on Hogger advice, I purchased a Nikon battery (rather than a generic) and when it arrived, I compared the old and new batteries.

The battery on the left came with the camera and the right one is from Nikon. Since the original is labeled "FOR NIKON..." am I to assume it is not a Nikon battery? Interesting then, that B & H's camera was sold with a non-OEM battery.

Also interesting that the original battery is 7.4 volts (and 1,800 milliamp hours) while the Nikon is 7.2 volts (at 1230 milliamp hours). While I'm not concerned with the difference in milliamp hours, why would there be a different voltage?
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 yea... (show quote)


Did you buy the camera new? If it's new it should come with Nikon battery. The voltage rating is approximate. If you charge it up fully it would measure about 8.4 volts or so.

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Apr 27, 2022 10:05:51   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Thomas902 wrote:
fourlocks B&H has a deceptive paradigm of selling GRAY market without clearly disclosing this in their "Sales" listing page. They are actually getting more aggressive and deviously in pushing GRAY stock lately. Sad but true...

Bottom Line? The traditionally NikonUSA serial numbers' had the first digit of 3xxxxxx. This was used by Nikon for many years however the only way to (absolutely) identify a NikonUSA body is to match the body serial number to the original box. The serial number printed on the box will have a "(U)" next to it, indicating it was imported by NikonUSA. That said, a serial number beginning with 3 and with 0 as the second digit is almost always a NikonUSA product. a.k.a. Nikon Services will work on these bodies... Others? Nope, you're SOL and are stuck with third party service providers (a crap shoot at best).

Case in point with B&H selling GRAY: fourlocks I'm only here to help my other UHH colleagues comprehend "the complexities latent within the arena of "Authorized" vendors of Nikon Kit" And some of the devious ways they prey on the naive. Again take B&H in this example. They are likely one of the largest major vendor who is also guilty of selling "Gray Market" Nikon product.

What? How can that be? B&H are in the game to turn a "trick" and even worse mascaraed as a "Nikon Authorized Dealer" while they are actually selling GRAY MARKET!
See image below where in fine print they state "B&H Warranty Only" but still have the audacity to place a "Nikon Authorized Dealer" Logo Statement prominent (in color) on the upper right hand corner.

An Attorney would recognize this use of that Logo in this page could be construed as "false or misleading with intent to deceive". As such that would constitute "Misrepresentation" which is one the elements of common law fraud.

See below:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333200-GREY/nikon_d7500_dslr_camera_with.html
Noticed embedded in the URL code the word GREY! Yep, how often do you actually check URL's fourlocks?

Note: This URL may be taken down since B&H actually has agents embedded here on UHH to do damage control (Henry and Hershel who are very conscientious gentlemen) but are Employed by B&H nonetheless. However the screen capture below bears witness to this inference.
The camera advertised here is GRAY MARKET Period! Nikon Services US will not touch it. Caveat Emptor!

B&H GRAY MARKET Nikon D7500 DSLR Camera with 18-140mm Lens (However not advertised as such).
fourlocks B&H has a deceptive paradigm of sell... (show quote)


Glad I'm not in the market for a new camera

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Apr 27, 2022 10:17:25   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
fourlocks wrote:
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 years ago and decided to replace the battery, keeping the old one as a backup. Based on Hogger advice, I purchased a Nikon battery (rather than a generic) and when it arrived, I compared the old and new batteries.

The battery on the left came with the camera and the right one is from Nikon. Since the original is labeled "FOR NIKON..." am I to assume it is not a Nikon battery? Interesting then, that B & H's camera was sold with a non-OEM battery.

Also interesting that the original battery is 7.4 volts (and 1,800 milliamp hours) while the Nikon is 7.2 volts (at 1230 milliamp hours). While I'm not concerned with the difference in milliamp hours, why would there be a different voltage?
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 yea... (show quote)


The battery on the left is NOT a Nikon battery, nor was it authorized by Nikon to be sold with their cameras. If you indeed bought the camera new, with that battery as the only included battery, then your camera was not "new" and was quite likely a returned product that the seller put that battery in for whatever reason. Luckily the EN-EL 14 batteries are not "chipped" and all aftermarket batteries work fine in all cameras taking that model battery.

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Apr 27, 2022 13:22:27   #
kmielen Loc: Eastern NC
 
[quote=fourlocks]I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 years ago and decided to replace the battery, keeping the old one as a backup. Based on Hogger advice, I purchased a Nikon battery (rather than a generic) and when it arrived, I compared the old and new batteries.

I'd be curious as to what your 5-year old B&H receipt says. The D5600 was introduced in November 2016 so your D5500 could have been old stock, refurb, used, or gray! What is the serial number? If you can find one of the first shots you took with it, you could see what the approx. starting shutter count was. But the supplied battery was definitely not Nikon-branded.

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Apr 27, 2022 22:02:12   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
fourlocks wrote:
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 years ago and decided to replace the battery, keeping the old one as a backup. Based on Hogger advice, I purchased a Nikon battery (rather than a generic) and when it arrived, I compared the old and new batteries.

The battery on the left came with the camera and the right one is from Nikon. Since the original is labeled "FOR NIKON..." am I to assume it is not a Nikon battery? Interesting then, that B & H's camera was sold with a non-OEM battery.

Also interesting that the original battery is 7.4 volts (and 1,800 milliamp hours) while the Nikon is 7.2 volts (at 1230 milliamp hours). While I'm not concerned with the difference in milliamp hours, why would there be a different voltage?
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 yea... (show quote)


The one on the left does not claim to be a Nikon battery, so I doubt it is.

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Apr 27, 2022 22:12:47   #
User ID
 
fourlocks wrote:
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 years ago and decided to replace the battery, keeping the old one as a backup. Based on Hogger advice, I purchased a Nikon battery (rather than a generic) and when it arrived, I compared the old and new batteries.

The battery on the left came with the camera and the right one is from Nikon. Since the original is labeled "FOR NIKON..." am I to assume it is not a Nikon battery? Interesting then, that B & H's camera was sold with a non-OEM battery.

Also interesting that the original battery is 7.4 volts (and 1,800 milliamp hours) while the Nikon is 7.2 volts (at 1230 milliamp hours). While I'm not concerned with the difference in milliamp hours, why would there be a different voltage?
I bought my Nikon D5500 from B & H about 5 yea... (show quote)

Seriously ... are you serious ??!?!?!?
I would nevvvvuh choose that Nikon battery over your other battery. It is clearly a decidedly superior battery.

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Apr 27, 2022 22:20:27   #
User ID
 
Thomas902 wrote:
fourlocks B&H has a deceptive paradigm of selling GRAY market without clearly disclosing this in their "Sales" listing page. They are actually getting more aggressive and deviously in pushing GRAY stock lately. Sad but true...

Bottom Line? The traditionally NikonUSA serial numbers' had the first digit of 3xxxxxx. This was used by Nikon for many years however the only way to (absolutely) identify a NikonUSA body is to match the body serial number to the original box. The serial number printed on the box will have a "(U)" next to it, indicating it was imported by NikonUSA. That said, a serial number beginning with 3 and with 0 as the second digit is almost always a NikonUSA product. a.k.a. Nikon Services will work on these bodies... Others? Nope, you're SOL and are stuck with third party service providers (a crap shoot at best).

Case in point with B&H selling GRAY: fourlocks I'm only here to help my other UHH colleagues comprehend "the complexities latent within the arena of "Authorized" vendors of Nikon Kit" And some of the devious ways they prey on the naive. Again take B&H in this example. They are likely one of the largest major vendor who is also guilty of selling "Gray Market" Nikon product.

What? How can that be? B&H are in the game to turn a "trick" and even worse mascaraed as a "Nikon Authorized Dealer" while they are actually selling GRAY MARKET!
See image below where in fine print they state "B&H Warranty Only" but still have the audacity to place a "Nikon Authorized Dealer" Logo Statement prominent (in color) on the upper right hand corner.

An Attorney would recognize this use of that Logo in this page could be construed as "false or misleading with intent to deceive". As such that would constitute "Misrepresentation" which is one the elements of common law fraud.

See below:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333200-GREY/nikon_d7500_dslr_camera_with.html
Noticed embedded in the URL code the word GREY! Yep, how often do you actually check URL's fourlocks?

Note: This URL may be taken down since B&H actually has agents embedded here on UHH to do damage control (Henry and Hershel who are very conscientious gentlemen) but are Employed by B&H nonetheless. However the screen capture below bears witness to this inference.
The camera advertised here is GRAY MARKET Period! Nikon Services US will not touch it. Caveat Emptor!

B&H GRAY MARKET Nikon D7500 DSLR Camera with 18-140mm Lens (However not advertised as such).
fourlocks B&H has a deceptive paradigm of sell... (show quote)

Toadall BS post, verrry typical. Get real. Acoarst I do realize thaz actually asking way too much :-(

All B&H listings declare the facts, altho they dont slap you in the face and yell "Lizzen up Idjit !". It seems some folks perhaps do need that.

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Apr 28, 2022 05:52:10   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
The battery on the left is not a genuine Nikon battery.
3rd party batteries often claim higher mAH ratings than a factory replacement. It is a risk you take with any clone battery. The only way to be sure is to dismantle the pack and check whether there are any markings on the battery itself. And there is something weird about the type of battery used. A lithium polymer battery is quoted as having 3.7 volts and a lithium ion as being 3.6 volts. I have had trouble finding out the exact difference and how you can tell what you have but the numbers shown on your packs would indicate you have one of each. Because it is a lot harder to pull apart a camera battery without harming it I haven't bothered but I can tell you that power tool batteries are notorious for false claims. When you buy a 4AH pack, open it up and check the battery manufacturers part number (if it even has one) and find that it was only rated at 1.6AH (they use them in pairs), 2 x 1.6 = 3.2AH you start to doubt the claimed 4AH.
And attached photo shows a couple of cells I bought online a few years back. Both these cells are identical except the bottom one shows what was really there after I removed the outer skin on one of them. Outright dishonest fraud. But typical of what you can find with batteries where you cannot trace their providence.


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Apr 28, 2022 07:44:05   #
TerryVS
 
[quote=Thomas902]fourlocks B&H has a deceptive paradigm of selling GRAY market without clearly disclosing this in their "Sales" listing page. They are actually getting more aggressive and deviously in pushing GRAY stock lately. Sad but true...

Wow, you read a thread about a battery and learn a company you've been doing business with since the early 90's has gone sketchy. Given the times I guess I shouldn't be surprised but it's sad. I've always just gone to B&H and ordered. I appreciate you pointing this out.

As for the battery would it have been made during the big Nikon fraud battery days? I can't remember when that was and how they were marked.

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Apr 28, 2022 08:22:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I don't think I've ever seen Wh.

What is the answer of 13.3 WH converted into mah?
13.3 WH is equal to 13300 mah, or there are 13300 milliamp hours in 13.3 watt-hours.

13.3 watt-hour to milliamp-hour converter converts 13.3 WH into mah and vice versa precisely and accurately. If you click the "swap unit" button, you can carry out the reverse conversion as well.

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