Two Arizona pilots from the Red Bull flying team attempted to swap planes in midair. They each jumped from their planes sending them into stall and attempted to catch up to them, restart and land safely. Amazingly, at least to me, one of them was successful. The other plane crashed but the pilot made it to the ground safely. The FAA claims Red Bull’s request for approval of the stunt was denied but they went ahead anyway. The FAA is investigating.
Almost "Darwin Award" material.
I wonder who paid for that mistake....?
Dumber than a box of rocks.
tradio wrote:
Almost "Darwin Award" material.
Definitely.
You may have heard about a pilot who intentionally crashed his plane so he could record the event. He jumped out (with a parachute) and filmed the crash. After an investigation, his pilot's license was revoked for life.
I was surprised to see that in General Aviation (GA - small, private planes), there is a fatal crash almost every day. I've ridden in small planes piloted by people I knew, but I think I'll stop doing that.
"According to the latest report released Thursday, there were 332 fatalities in general aviation operations in 2020. That number is down from 414 in 2019. The report attributes the decline to what it calls a “broad reduction in flight activity.”Broncolirio and others offer reports on crashes.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blancolirio+channel
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
Amazingly stupid and dangerous. So we have two out of control aircraft with propellers spinning and two fools falling in the same airspace in proximity to the aircraft (and spinning propellers) - what could possibly go wrong? And what a waste of a perfectly good aircraft.
Many, many, many years ago newsman Paul Harvey announced one day over the air that he no longer would fly on any aircraft other than those of commercial airlines. His rationale was that too many private, and business pilots did not fly enough or have sufficient training to be safe pilots, especially in an emergency situation. If "the rest of the story" Paul said this I judged it to be a valid observation in as much that Harvey was pilot himself for years. He was sometimes over the top with his subject matter, but in this case I was made a true believer and never flew on non-commercial airlines again.
Re: Airplanes in dire situations.
It is interesting to note how many crashes with just about 100% survivors rate had Glider-rated pilots at the helm. Since the late 1970s I made a point to ask about Flight ratings of the pilots who would be sitting on the flight decks.
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
jerryc41 wrote:
Definitely.
You may have heard about a pilot who intentionally crashed his plane so he could record the event. He jumped out (with a parachute) and filmed the crash. After an investigation, his pilot's license was revoked for life.
I was surprised to see that in General Aviation (GA - small, private planes), there is a fatal crash almost every day. I've ridden in small planes piloted by people I knew, but I think I'll stop doing that.
"According to the latest report released Thursday, there were 332 fatalities in general aviation operations in 2020. That number is down from 414 in 2019. The report attributes the decline to what it calls a “broad reduction in flight activity.”Broncolirio and others offer reports on crashes.
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Same reason I avoided small (typically turboprop) commuter aircraft if possible when I flew for business. They typically pay their pilots a pittance and who are often (but not always) young pilots with limited experience accumulating hours and working their way up to jets. I like to see “some grey hair in the cockpit” and it doesn’t hurt if they are ex military either.
St.Mary's wrote:
Many, many, many years ago newsman Paul Harvey announced one day over the air that he no longer would fly on any aircraft other than those of commercial airlines. His rationale was that too many private, and business pilots did not fly enough or have sufficient training to be safe pilots, especially in an emergency situation. If "the rest of the story" Paul said this I judged it to be a valid observation in as much that Harvey was pilot himself for years. He was sometimes over the top with his subject matter, but in this case I was made a true believer and never flew on non-commercial airlines again.
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I have been a pilot for over 50 years. When Paul Harvey was active as a pilot, there were far fewer regulations and requirements than there are today. Aircraft are far safer, pilots are better trained, and there is a greater emphasis on recurrent training than in earlier decades. Obviously, there are pilots who are not the safest, just as there are drivers who are not the safest. But, for the most part, we are in a much safer aviation era than earlier. For example, we recently installed avionics in our aircraft that will put the aircraft in a safe attitude if the autopilot detects an unusual or unsafe attitude of the aircraft. If there is a need to glide to the nearest airport due to engine outage, a push of a single button will instruct the autopilot to set up the best glide speed and turn toward the nearest airport. Now, none of this can prevent incidents due to pilot stupidity, but we are in a far better air transportation environment than ever before.
TriX wrote:
Same reason I avoided small (typically turboprop) commuter aircraft if possible when I flew for business. They typically pay their pilots a pittance and who are often (but not always) young pilots with limited experience accumulating hours and working their way up to jets. I like to see “some grey hair in the cockpit” and it doesn’t hurt if they are ex military either.
I once had to fly to NH, and the last leg was from Boston to NH. The check-in at Logan was at a very small counter. Their phone, was a payphone on the wall - a few feet away. Conversation with the pilot, "Okay, well when do you think you can get here?" Everyone had to be weighed so they'd know where to seat us, and not all of the luggage would fit in the plane. We could see right into the cockpit. The two college freshmen(?) flying the plane turned around and greeted us. It was a humorous flight, but I doubt I would do it now.
Another small plane ride involved me and two other guys in college paying $25 each to another student who was a pilot. He rented a plane and flew us over the Hudson River. He thought we'd like to see a stall. He put the plane into a steep climb, and the warning horns sounded. Then the engine stopped. He put the plane into a steep dive, and the engine coughed back to life. And somehow, I'm still alive at 78.
As a pilot myself I hope the FAA rescinds both pilots’ licenses. They were both told to have second pilots in each airplane to legally execute this stunt.
whfowle
Loc: Tampa first, now Albuquerque
Two pilots who are incredibly bored or incredibly stupid...or both.
jerryc41 wrote:
I once had to fly to NH, and the last leg was from Boston to NH. The check-in at Logan was at a very small counter. Their phone, was a payphone on the wall - a few feet away. Conversation with the pilot, "Okay, well when do you think you can get here?" Everyone had to be weighed so they'd know where to seat us, and not all of the luggage would fit in the plane. We could see right into the cockpit. The two college freshmen(?) flying the plane turned around and greeted us. It was a humorous flight, but I doubt I would do it now.
Another small plane ride involved me and two other guys in college paying $25 each to another student who was a pilot. He rented a plane and flew us over the Hudson River. He thought we'd like to see a stall. He put the plane into a steep climb, and the warning horns sounded. Then the engine stopped. He put the plane into a steep dive, and the engine coughed back to life. And somehow, I'm still alive at 78.
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When I was in grad school in Hanover, NH in the late 70s, the ONLY way to fly in or out was to fly small prop planes from West Lebanon to Boston. We used to joke that the airline would inevitably run into a mountain every few years, change its name, and keep on going. I personally never had a problem, but they were « interesting » flights.
The old adage"there are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots" is still true!
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