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Apr 17, 2022 18:39:44   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I replaced the drives in three Macs and one PC laptop with Crucial SSD's and they have been great.

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Apr 17, 2022 19:29:26   #
Tony G.
 
From a electronic engineer standpoint, Crucial makes very good SSD and Memory chips. I have personally used them for years with no problems. I directed the manufacture of the chambers and transport mechanisms in the machines we sold to Micron to make the memory ICs. Their failure rates are very low because they have a strong verification and quality program. I assume they have the same level of quality control in the Crucial assembly locations in Thailand and Mexico.

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Apr 18, 2022 01:01:13   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
TriX wrote:
After having been in enterprise, real time and high performance computing since the introduction of Intel CPUs (8080), personally, I have never seen an Intel CPU go belly up in commercial service. Doesn’t mean they haven’t, but I’ve never seen it. The reason I chose Intel SSDs initially soon after the introduction of the first SSDs for home/client use was their reliability metrics compared to their competitors, and I’ve never been disappointed.


My sister-in-law had an Intel Celeron CPU died while defragmenting a C Drive. Fried Windows in the process of dying from heat I would guess. They were inferior to regular Pentium chips but cost less because they had some features disabled. I had to switched component parts around between the damaged PC and another spare one I had to figure out what had happened since the O/S was damaged was well as the microprocessor. Years later she had a firm recover her personal files.

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Apr 18, 2022 06:39:30   #
Gatorcoach Loc: New Jersey
 
burkphoto wrote:
Crucial makes good stuff. That said, there are many good SSD alternatives in the marketplace these days. Read/Write speeds are generally in line with price... If you have a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 connection, you can use the fastest drives. A USB-C 10Gbps connection will top out at about one third to one fourth of that.

Thunderbolt-equipped SSDs are far more expensive than the ones with USB-C interfaces. But if you edit high bit rate video... you may need Thunderbolt drives.

I use a Samsung T7 — similar to the Crucial X8 — on my MacBook Air. HOW I connect it to the computer matters. The Mac has Thunderbolt 3/USB4 via USB-C, but the drive itself is just USB-C connector rated at 10Gbps. The drive itself is rated at up to 1050 MBps. The drive came with two cables for USB-C to USB-A and USB-C to USB-C.

If you buy an external drive that comes with a cable, or cables, MARK THEM for use with that drive only. Using a USB-C cable NOT MADE FOR a Thunderbolt device will slow down that Thunderbolt device to USB 5 or 10 Gbps speed. Using a 5Gbps rated cable on a faster drive will limit that drive to the speed of the cable.

USB-C cables are NOT all the same. USB-C is just a connector and is not a protocol. The same connector supports USB-1, 2, and 3 in various "speed flavors." It supports Thunderbolt 1, 2, 3, and 4 in various speed flavors up to 40Gbps. It supports DisplayPort monitor connectivity, FireWire, Ethernet, audio, video, and more, so the CABLE you use has to be appropriate for the device to work at maximum speed.

INTERFACE matters, too. I can plug my drive into the Mac directly, or via a dock, or via a hub on my monitor. Blackmagic's Disk Speed Test shows what I mean:
Crucial makes good stuff. That said, there are man... (show quote)


Thanks Bill. I've never read or heard that about the cables and seems important. From the reviews of the Crucial SSDs, the opinions from fellow hoggers, and my personal boycott of Samsung (major customer services issues) I made the right decision to buy a 2TB X8.

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Apr 18, 2022 07:43:53   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I think the HDD's aren't very reliable because they have moving parts.


Hard drives do have moving parts. That doesn't make them unreliable. It depends strongly on the usage they get. I have an external hard drive that I got in the '90s. It still works fine, but it gets no significant use. It's such a small capacity (like 50 GBytes).

If a hard drive fails mechanically, the disk can still be recovered (although it could be expensive) as long as the failure wasn't due to being dropped.

If a solid state drive fails, it's toast.

What does reliability really mean here?

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Apr 18, 2022 09:17:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Hard drives do have moving parts. That doesn't make them unreliable. It depends strongly on the usage they get. I have an external hard drive that I got in the '90s. It still works fine, but it gets no significant use. It's such a small capacity (like 50 GBytes).

If a hard drive fails mechanically, the disk can still be recovered (although it could be expensive) as long as the failure wasn't due to being dropped.

If a solid state drive fails, it's toast.

What does reliability really mean here?
Hard drives do have moving parts. That doesn't mak... (show quote)


It means, have an SSD for daily speed, and HDDs for backups and file storage.

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Apr 18, 2022 09:43:18   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
burkphoto wrote:
It means, have an SSD for daily speed, and HDDs for backups and file storage.



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Apr 18, 2022 10:06:16   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
lamiaceae wrote:
My sister-in-law had an Intel Celeron CPU died while defragmenting a C Drive. Fried Windows in the process of dying from heat I would guess. They were inferior to regular Pentium chips but cost less because they had some features disabled. I had to switched component parts around between the damaged PC and another spare one I had to figure out what had happened since the O/S was damaged was well as the microprocessor. Years later she had a firm recover her personal files.


Makes sense - my comments were concerning Intels used in enterprise environments in servers where cooling is always paramount. Celerons we’re designed for laptops, which just don’t have the cooling of a desktop. Add to that they are likely never cleaned and often operated in ways (such as sitting in the user’s lap where the cooling slots are obstructed) that diminish cooling and have small fans, if any at all, and you have a recipe for heat related failures, and heat is the enemy of devices. Sounds like doing the defrag, she was running it flat out for an extended period causing max heat.

My recommendation for Intel’s devices still stands. I have been in one of their foundries and discussed their QA, and in my opinion, they’re in the top tier of the semiconductor manufactures in terms of quality.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:26:08   #
TreborLow
 
My local computer guru recommended a Crucial SSD and I installed one about 6 months ago with excellent perfromance. Was very reasonably priced at that time. Don't know anything about ultimate longevity....
Bob

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Apr 18, 2022 10:32:55   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Gatorcoach wrote:
Has anybody used, or know about, Crucial SSDs? They are doing a lot of advertising and have two models: X6 in plastic case and X8 in a metal case.


Crucial has a good rep in the industry and my experience has been good with their SSD for what it is worth...

Cheers!

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Apr 18, 2022 10:33:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
TriX wrote:
Makes sense - my comments were concerning Intels used in enterprise environments in servers where cooling is always paramount. Celerons we’re designed for laptops, which just don’t have the cooling of a desktop. Add to that they are likely never cleaned and often operated in ways (such as sitting in the user’s lap where the cooling slots are obstructed) that diminish cooling and have small fans, if any at all, and you have a recipe for heat related failures, and heat is the enemy of devices. Sounds like doing the defrag, she was running it flat out for an extended period causing max heat.

My recommendation for Intel’s devices still stands. I have been in one of their foundries and discussed their QA, and in my opinion, they’re in the top tier of the semiconductor manufactures in terms of quality.
Makes sense - my comments were concerning Intels u... (show quote)




I had an early 2008 MacBook Pro with Intel Core 2 Duo running at its maximum 2.6 GHz. At the time, it was a very fast machine. But I tended to push it to the max a lot, running Win XP in Parallels with two apps open and MacOS X with three apps open. The fans ran all the time, and the keyboard got very hot. I opened it up about 18 months after I bought it and vacuumed out all the dust, which had coated the inside of the fan. It needed to be vacuumed out twice that often.

That was the model with the nVidia graphics processor that failed en masse, causing Apple's relationship with nVidia to become very strained (it eventually broke). Sure enough, right before the AppleCare warranty ran out on that Mac, the nVidia chip failed, and the motherboard had to be replaced. It cost me nothing other than mileage to the Apple store and two days of having to use a six year old PowerBook.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:38:38   #
BebuLamar
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Hard drives do have moving parts. That doesn't make them unreliable. It depends strongly on the usage they get. I have an external hard drive that I got in the '90s. It still works fine, but it gets no significant use. It's such a small capacity (like 50 GBytes).

If a hard drive fails mechanically, the disk can still be recovered (although it could be expensive) as long as the failure wasn't due to being dropped.

If a solid state drive fails, it's toast.

What does reliability really mean here?
Hard drives do have moving parts. That doesn't mak... (show quote)


50GB is a very large HHD in the 90's.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:52:06   #
KLambar Loc: New Jersey
 
I have two Crucial SSD portable (1 TB/2 TB) have had no problems.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:53:55   #
Dwiggy Loc: Dunedin, FL
 
Gatorcoach wrote:
Has anybody used, or know about, Crucial SSDs? They are doing a lot of advertising and have two models: X6 in plastic case and X8 in a metal case.


I have used Crucial SSD's as main drives in two computers, one a Dell desktop and one a Lenovo laptop with no issues. Both 500GB. They bundle Acronis cloning software with them, which has it's pros and cons, but I have used it successfully. Great SSD's with no problems whatsoever.

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Apr 18, 2022 11:18:13   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
50GB is a very large HHD in the 90's.


Not so much today, which is why it gets very little use.

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