If you care about IQ don't sell your D850
Apr 13, 2022 17:33:58 #
Strodav
Loc: Houston, Tx
DxOMark.com just added the Z9 to their sensor database. The D850 has an overall score of 100 and the Z9 a score of 98. If you compare the D850 and Z9 looking at their measurements, the D850 is slightly better in SNR, Tonal Range, and Color Sensitivity, but there is a surprising difference is DR below 800 ISO in favor of the D850. Will you see the difference in your images? Maybe in portraiture and landscape photography, but only if you look very hard.
The most interesting thing I saw was the top 10 rankings among the big 3. Yep, Canon is missing with the first Canon being the R3 at #12 with a score of 96, the R5 is #15 with a score of 95. It's amazing that the D800E, a 2012 camera is at #13 with a score of 96, same as the R3. Here's the top 10 table:
The most interesting thing I saw was the top 10 rankings among the big 3. Yep, Canon is missing with the first Canon being the R3 at #12 with a score of 96, the R5 is #15 with a score of 95. It's amazing that the D800E, a 2012 camera is at #13 with a score of 96, same as the R3. Here's the top 10 table:
Apr 13, 2022 17:41:35 #
It's widely known the blatant DXO bias against Canon. It's a wonder they even included the world's #1 camera manufacturer in their testing, certainly seems like just a token courtesy.
Apr 13, 2022 17:44:48 #
Apr 13, 2022 17:51:24 #
Apr 13, 2022 17:51:57 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's widely known the blatant DXO bias against Canon. It's a wonder they even included the world's #1 camera manufacturer in their testing, certainly seems like just a token curtesy.
Apr 13, 2022 17:52:13 #
Longshadow wrote:
What's 2 points between friends?
Oh, yea, two points.
Oh, yea, two points.
Is it more or less than the 0.3% difference of using a quality lens filter?
Apr 13, 2022 17:54:00 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Is it more or less than the 0.3% difference of using a quality lens filter?
OMG!!!
But, but, but......
Apr 13, 2022 18:17:44 #
Strodav
Loc: Houston, Tx
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's widely known the blatant DXO bias against Canon. It's a wonder they even included the world's #1 camera manufacturer in their testing, certainly seems like just a token courtesy.
You know I posted this just to troll you.
Apr 13, 2022 18:34:13 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's widely known the blatant DXO bias against Canon. It's a wonder they even included the world's #1 camera manufacturer in their testing, certainly seems like just a token courtesy.
Just a reminder not to confuse DxO with DxOMark. They have been two completely separate companies since the fall of 2017. DxO is the publisher of PhotoLab, Viewpoint, FilmPack and the Nik Collection. DxOMark tests and rates lenses and sensors. They no longer have any relationship. While you may think its not a big deal or that I'm overreacting, consider that maligning one company when you meant another is not really fair.
Apr 13, 2022 19:06:31 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Strodav wrote:
DxOMark.com just added the Z9 to their sensor data... (show quote)
This is probably not all that surprising. Incorporating the focus sensors on the main sensor can only be done by disturbing the "uniformity" of the actual image elements. Having a (almost) full field of uniformly arranged sensing elements will remain an advantage of cameras with off-chip focus sensors. There are, of course, a few sensors for Live View and video operation, but not as many as on mirrorless cameras.
Apr 13, 2022 20:08:11 #
Strodav wrote:
DxOMark.com just added the Z9 to their sensor data... (show quote)
So something like a 4% spread which isn’t much.
And in the real world how would this show up in images from 94 to 98. OMG that is so bad!! or would it be “I can’t see any difference”
If you want better IQ save your money and spend it on better lenses not newer bodies.
Apr 13, 2022 20:16:47 #
Longshadow wrote:
What's 2 points between friends?
Oh, yea, two points.
Oh, yea, two points.
Seems to me the list is proof of sample to sample variations, showing a difference between the Z7 and Z7II. Do correct me if I may be wrong, but AFAIK the imaging components are no different between the Z7 and Z7Ii.
Apr 13, 2022 20:28:27 #
My mind is made up. I'm keeping my D850.
Of course, if it came in last on the list I would still keep my D850 since I like the results it gets.
With my D850 I still use the same settings I used on my D!x. I'm happy.
The Z9 is intriguing with all the bells and whistles, particuarly with the 400 and 800 Z lenses mounted.
When will the Z10 rumors start coming?
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Of course, if it came in last on the list I would still keep my D850 since I like the results it gets.
With my D850 I still use the same settings I used on my D!x. I'm happy.
The Z9 is intriguing with all the bells and whistles, particuarly with the 400 and 800 Z lenses mounted.
When will the Z10 rumors start coming?
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Apr 13, 2022 20:33:29 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's widely known the blatant DXO bias against Canon. It's a wonder they even included the world's #1 camera manufacturer in their testing, certainly seems like just a token courtesy.
It is widely known that anyone using the word "Canon" in their user name has a blatant bias towards Canon and sees boogeymen around every corner.
Apr 13, 2022 20:35:14 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's widely known the blatant DXO bias against Canon. It's a wonder they even included the world's #1 camera manufacturer in their testing, certainly seems like just a token courtesy.
Numbers seldom lie. Bias aside, the D850 is a pretty phenomenal camera. And Canon's R5 is as well. But while it has an amazing feature set, at the end of the day, when IQ is considered, it's hard to beat the king.
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