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I got scammed for $3,185?
Mar 31, 2022 18:44:43   #
Tom 0933 Loc: East Troy, Wisconsin
 
I recently sold two cameras for the sum of $3,185 using PayPal. The buyer sent the payment which was pending until I shipped the items and give PayPal the tracking number/s to get the funds released.

I contacted PayPal executive office and they told me that the payment request I sent to buyer was never fulfilled and appeared not to be genuine.

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Mar 31, 2022 18:45:42   #
Tom 0933 Loc: East Troy, Wisconsin
 
The so called buyer


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Mar 31, 2022 18:55:20   #
uhaas2009
 
Sorry to see that

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Mar 31, 2022 18:57:45   #
lxu532 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
That's such a shame! I'm so sorry.

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Mar 31, 2022 19:04:39   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Tom 0933 wrote:
I recently sold two cameras for the sum of $3,185 using PayPal. The buyer sent the payment which was pending until I shipped the items and give PayPal the tracking number/s to get the funds released.

I contacted PayPal executive office and they told me that the payment request I sent to buyer was never fulfilled and appeared not to be genuine.


Sorry that you got ripped off.

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Mar 31, 2022 19:21:47   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Was this thru UHH?

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Mar 31, 2022 19:27:18   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Tom 0933 wrote:
I recently sold two cameras for the sum of $3,185 using PayPal. The buyer sent the payment which was pending until I shipped the items and give PayPal the tracking number/s to get the funds released.

I contacted PayPal executive office and they told me that the payment request I sent to buyer was never fulfilled and appeared not to be genuine.


More information/clarification please. Were the funds ever shown in Paypal as received into your account or did you ship the items after you requested the funds but before you received them? What was the ship to name and address and how was it shipped? Do you by chance have the S/Ns of the items? (the scum bag’s got to sell them somewhere) maybe start by notifying the police in the ship to city, checking the Craigslist in that city and monitoring eBay for your items. And if sent by USPS, notifying the postal inspector?

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Mar 31, 2022 19:52:16   #
Tom 0933 Loc: East Troy, Wisconsin
 
The funds were posted in my PayPal account but marked as pending. I then got an email from PayPal stating I had to ship the items and give them the tracking number/s in order to get funds released. I don't have the S/Ns. I shipped them via USPS Express to his address in N.Y. and he got them.
I got a series of emails from PayPal stating that I had to upgrade my personal account to a business account. The more I looked at this all I contacted PayPal directly and they told me although the funds were posted as pending this appeared to be not genuine as that PayPal never charges extra for an upgrade to a business account.

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Mar 31, 2022 20:00:14   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Tom 0933 wrote:
The funds were posted in my PayPal account but marked as pending. I then got an email from PayPal stating I had to ship the items and give them the tracking number/s in order to get funds released. I don't have the S/Ns. I shipped them via USPS Express to his address in N.Y. and he got them.
I got a series of emails from PayPal stating that I had to upgrade my personal account to a business account. The more I looked at this all I contacted PayPal directly and they told me although the funds were posted as pending this appeared to be not genuine as that PayPal never charges extra for an upgrade to a business account.
The funds were posted in my PayPal account but mar... (show quote)


So none of the emails from Paypal were genuine? Time to contact the postal department and the local police department. Have you done some research on the address and the ship to name? For 3K$, I’d drive from Wisconsin to NY and visit the address with a police or federal officer (sounds like possibly mail fraud).

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Mar 31, 2022 21:28:50   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
When you get an email, hover your cursor over the email name that is usually shown at the top of the email. The true address will appear.
This week I’ve gotten 4 emails supposedly from my internet carrier (socket) telling me to contact them because I had emails that were quarantined. After doing so the messages would be released. Hovering over their socket sender name showed that their true address appeared to be some vitamin selling racket.

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Mar 31, 2022 22:45:44   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
When you get an email, hover your cursor over the email name that is usually shown at the top of the email. The true address will appear.
This week I’ve gotten 4 emails supposedly from my internet carrier (socket) telling me to contact them because I had emails that were quarantined. After doing so the messages would be released. Hovering over their socket sender name showed that their true address appeared to be some vitamin selling racket.

This doesn't always work.

A number of years ago there was a scammer who would send you what appeared to be an authentic PayPal e-mail that wasn't.

The final L in the PayPal e-mail address was actually an uppercase "i"...so it looked real, but wasn't.

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Mar 31, 2022 23:15:24   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
Tom 0933 wrote:
I recently sold two cameras for the sum of $3,185 using PayPal. The buyer sent the payment which was pending until I shipped the items and give PayPal the tracking number/s to get the funds released.

I contacted PayPal executive office and they told me that the payment request I sent to buyer was never fulfilled and appeared not to be genuine.

I had a guy try this with me about 6 years ago, but didn't bite as there were so many red flags during the course of negotiations.

It was a Craigslist sale and he contacted me by text. I asked him to stop texting and contact me via e-mail instead. He claimed his e-mail didn't work and continued texting.

I listed the lens I was selling "local pickup only". He said he was from Rhode Island and asked me to reconsider. I said no.

He then told me it was a gift for a friend and said he needed help in getting it to his friend in "West Africa"...ding, ding, ding (alarm bells). As I suspected West Africa turned out to be Nigeria. I told him that wasn't going to happen, but that I would violate my own rule and ship it...but only to Rhode Island.

So then I get a PayPal e-mail notification of payment pending, just like you received. That payment notice from "PayPal" also showed a Nigerian address for shipping even though I told him I would never ship it there. It all looked authentic, but at this point I believed nothing and certainly wasn't going to click on a link in an e-mail to check my balance. So I went to PayPal directly and there was no such pending payment in my account.

At this point I forwarded the fake e-mail to PayPal's fraud unit "spoof@paypal.com" and they quickly responded that it was all fake and that it was not their practice to withhold payments for shipping verification, if money is sent they credit it to your account. However, there are some legitimate instances where they do make pending payments.

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Apr 1, 2022 01:40:57   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I stopped using PayPal years ago for a similar but different reason

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Apr 1, 2022 21:32:18   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
If those people worked that hard legitimately, they might have something they can actually be proud of. Screwing someone over is not something to brag about or be proud of. Don’t worry, fate has a way of collecting its debts and that person will eventually pay the price, maybe sooner, maybe later.

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Apr 5, 2022 07:29:41   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
flip1948 wrote:
This doesn't always work.

The final L in the PayPal e-mail address was actually an uppercase "i"...so it looked real, but wasn't.


So sorry to hear this. I experienced something similar a couple of years ago, however with a happier ending.

We were awaiting a wire transfer of a mid 7 digit dollar amount. When we did not receive the funds, we called the the company who was wiring the funds to find out why we did not have them yet. They explained to us that they were preparing to send the funds to the account in Singapore that we had requested via an email that we sent them. This was an obvious lie perpetrated by a clever group who somehow gained access to an email system of a financial institution.

We learned that they were spoofed. The instructional emails were intercepted and all of the email addresses in the chain were altered by a single character, ie a zero or a single letter was added to each one, so that at a quick glance, everyone on the distribution list was on the email chain, but no one was getting the email other than the company who was about to wire the funds.

Fortunately, we found the problem before the funds were wired. Our new policy is to verbally confirm every wire transfer, PayPal transaction before we send or receive any money, without exception.

There are some very creative thiefs out there preying on those moving money and we all have to be very diligent in how we choose to transact. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the world we live in.

Remember another thing, passwords are not more secure because of the special characters, but the length of the password, with special characters.

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