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Mar 27, 2022 08:49:44   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
yssirk123 wrote:
Looks good to me Kathy!


Thanks, Bill.

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Mar 27, 2022 08:52:19   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Delderby wrote:
IMHO - Yes! it is too dark. It is also a bit flat and could do with lightening, brightening and a little more contrast plus a smidgeon more saturation. This will improve punch and depth to what is a very well composed picture with the potential to be a wall hanger and a saleable picture. I repeat - IMHO.


Thanks for your comment. I never thought about it being flat. I'll look again. I'm always worried about getting things too "punchy," so I seldom add saturation, but do take the vibrance up a tad sometimes.

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Mar 27, 2022 10:54:05   #
RWCRNC Loc: Pennsylvania
 
No. Nice shot

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Mar 27, 2022 11:28:10   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Not to me.

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Mar 27, 2022 14:13:18   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
I like the shot, Kathy. The yellow flowers as a nice touch. I took the liberty of playing with it just a bit. I didn't lighten. I just increased the saturation of green and yellow to give a little more punch. It didn't make a big difference but I thought it helped.

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Mar 27, 2022 14:22:16   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yes. But you could lift the midtones even more -- to taste.
AzPicLady wrote:
I've worked on this one. I have a tendency to get images too dark. So I've lightened it a bunch. Is it still too dark?

Yes.
Yes....

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Mar 27, 2022 14:34:56   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
I think you have it just right. If you were to open up shadows any more it will start to go flat. IMO it is not flat now. To make images not as flat you usually increase contrast that will make your shadows go darker.
All that being said I think you nailed it. 👏

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Mar 27, 2022 17:28:19   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
RWCRNC wrote:
No. Nice shot


Thanks Rebecca.

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Mar 27, 2022 17:28:50   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
jaymatt wrote:
Not to me.


Thanks, John.

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Mar 27, 2022 17:29:54   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
anotherview wrote:
Yes. But you could lift the midtones even more -- to taste.


I was wondering about that. When those bushes are dark, I can ignore them. When lightened, I have to pay attention to them. Now I have to decide which I want to do! Thanks for your suggestion.

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Mar 27, 2022 17:30:24   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
I think you have it just right. If you were to open up shadows any more it will start to go flat. IMO it is not flat now. To make images not as flat you usually increase contrast that will make your shadows go darker.
All that being said I think you nailed it. 👏


Thanks, that was sort of my thought.

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Mar 27, 2022 17:31:41   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
I like the shot, Kathy. The yellow flowers as a nice touch. I took the liberty of playing with it just a bit. I didn't lighten. I just increased the saturation of green and yellow to give a little more punch. It didn't make a big difference but I thought it helped.


Thanks, Carol. As I said before, I seldom mess with saturation because I don't want to over-saturate reality. But in this case, perhaps bringing up the yellow to make the rabbit brush stand out a bit might be a good idea. Thanks, again.

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Mar 28, 2022 11:32:36   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
This is, I think, my final edit. I lightened the darkest part of the bushes by about 2 points. Hopefully that's not enough to make them fight with the subjects. And I decided I wanted the rabbit brush to be one of the elements, so I tried to bring it out a bit.


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Mar 28, 2022 13:46:42   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
AzPicLady wrote:
This is, I think, my final edit. I lightened the darkest part of the bushes by about 2 points. Hopefully that's not enough to make them fight with the subjects. And I decided I wanted the rabbit brush to be one of the elements, so I tried to bring it out a bit.


Excellent. As good as it gets.

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Mar 28, 2022 14:05:34   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
AzPicLady wrote:
......I'm always worried about getting things too "punchy,".....


It's an interesting study to note what exactly it is that gets an image looking too punchy. It varies from image to image depending on content, but as a general rule I find that it's the extremes of the luminosity scale that cause the most problems, especially the highlights. Darks going too solid and heavy is less than perfect but it doesn't usually scream "overcooked", whereas highlights that are too bright scream "too harsh", which can be a real shot spoiler. Subduing highlights and lifting shadows while at the same time boosting overall contrast can be tricky but it's worth developing that skill because it produces results that the eye likes, and that still applies if you like a natural look.

Another road to being too punchy is using too much saturation, but all colours aren't equal when it comes to creating a garish look. Again it depends on content, but as a general rule the colours quickest to look overcooked are the warmer colours (red, orange, yellow and yellow-green). If a shot has a preponderance of yellow, that's usually the colour that needs subduing most. Yellow-green is another common culprit because it's usually the colour of grass and leaves, especially in bright sunshine. For targeting the problem colours you need the HSL tool (or whatever your editor's equivalent is). When the problem colours are reined in you can leave the rest of the shot with a higher level of saturation.

The main problem with your posted shot is that it was shot in harsh light, which always means giving yourself extra work.

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