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Mar 20, 2022 11:03:21   #
sgt hop Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
 
i was stationed at mcguire afb in 1956 when we were visited by russian jet...the first to land here...we were allowed to tour and fotograph the aircraft....was interesting...this is one shot of mine....using,if i remember,a minolta autocord..,..since there is no aircraft forum,i stuck this here....



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Mar 20, 2022 11:08:03   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Beautiful aircraft. Thanks for sharing historical photograph. I note that most people do not know that Russia has a long aviation history.
sgt hop wrote:
i was stationed at mcguire afb in 1956 when we were visited by russian jet...the first to land here...we were allowed to tour and fotograph the aircraft....was interesting...this is one shot of mine....using,if i remember,a minolta autocord..,..since there is no aircraft forum,i stuck this here....

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Mar 20, 2022 11:15:43   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
I flew Aeroflot from Stockholm to Moscow many years ago. We flew on one of their planes. It was so poorly designed that if the passengers in the back of the plane were seated first, the plane would tip back on its tail. The passengers seated in the front therefore had to embark first, then the passengers in the back could get on. Disembarkation was the reverse - back passengers first, then front passengers.

It was also no-class seating - all the seats were equal. Well, some were more equal than others. There were two Russian generals on the flight. They were seated in the front and got some amenities that the rest of us did not get, like vodka and caviar.

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Mar 20, 2022 11:17:59   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
sgt hop wrote:
i was stationed at mcguire afb in 1956 when we were visited by russian jet...the first to land here...we were allowed to tour and fotograph the aircraft....was interesting...this is one shot of mine....using,if i remember,a minolta autocord..,..since there is no aircraft forum,i stuck this here....



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Mar 20, 2022 11:37:20   #
sgt hop Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
 
anotherview wrote:
Beautiful aircraft. Thanks for sharing historical photograph. I note that most people do not know that Russia has a long aviation history.


thanks for looking,and you are welcome....

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Mar 21, 2022 07:20:27   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 

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Mar 21, 2022 07:41:07   #
sgt hop Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
 
stanikon wrote:
I flew Aeroflot from Stockholm to Moscow many years ago. We flew on one of their planes. It was so poorly designed that if the passengers in the back of the plane were seated first, the plane would tip back on its tail. The passengers seated in the front therefore had to embark first, then the passengers in the back could get on. Disembarkation was the reverse - back passengers first, then front passengers.

It was also no-class seating - all the seats were equal. Well, some were more equal than others. There were two Russian generals on the flight. They were seated in the front and got some amenities that the rest of us did not get, like vodka and caviar.
I flew Aeroflot from Stockholm to Moscow many year... (show quote)


thanks for the background...i liked the tail dropping thing.......

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Mar 21, 2022 09:20:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
That wouldn't get a great reception today. The engine mount reminds me of the DeHaviland Comet. I guess the Russians were stealing western designs back then, too. Maybe they made changes to avoid the metal fatigue that plagued the Comet.

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Mar 21, 2022 09:41:50   #
lbrande
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That wouldn't get a great reception today. The engine mount reminds me of the DeHaviland Comet. I guess the Russians were stealing western designs back then, too. Maybe they made changes to avoid the metal fatigue that plagued the Comet.


IIRC, the metal fatigue on the Comet was due to the use of square shaped holes in the cabin. The stresses around a "corner" rise dramatically when a square shape is used, and falls dramatically when the corner is highly rounded.

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Mar 21, 2022 09:50:53   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
sgt hop wrote:
i was stationed at mcguire afb in 1956 when we were visited by russian jet...the first to land here...we were allowed to tour and fotograph the aircraft....was interesting...this is one shot of mine....using,if i remember,a minolta autocord..,..since there is no aircraft forum,i stuck this here....


This Tupolev TU-104 was an unusual aircraft, a USSR success! It was considered by many to be their first such plane. I remember seeing two Russian built A/C at the Dayton International Trade and Airshow is 1988 where the Russians had sent a transport and a fighter plane as their representation. While most a/c designers rely on smooth curves and few hard angles the Russians differed. Their a/c looked as though they had been constructed by a blacksmith! NO curves, just hard lines with many harsh angles. And each had GIGANTIC rivets everywhere! I took one look at each from the outside and thought the interiors would be just as badly designed and lost interest. In just two more years these planes were obsolete, the USSR was more.

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Mar 21, 2022 09:51:41   #
chuckla Loc: Kennesaw, GA USA
 
stanikon wrote:
I flew Aeroflot from Stockholm to Moscow many years ago. We flew on one of their planes. It was so poorly designed that if the passengers in the back of the plane were seated first, the plane would tip back on its tail. The passengers seated in the front therefore had to embark first, then the passengers in the back could get on. Disembarkation was the reverse - back passengers first, then front passengers..


My wife and i flew on the same type of plane from Tbilisi in Georgia to Kiev to Amsterdam as part of a Friendship Force visit in 1991- the loading was as you described, front first then rear. As (then) smokers we opted for the rear of the plane, and once on board found out that was the non-smoking section. The only lavatory was plugged up and stank so badly others around us suggested we light up, as it would improve the atmosphere!

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Mar 21, 2022 19:58:58   #
Bluefish Loc: Berks County, PA
 
sgt hop wrote:
i was stationed at mcguire afb in 1956 when we were visited by russian jet...the first to land here...we were allowed to tour and fotograph the aircraft....was interesting...this is one shot of mine....using,if i remember,a minolta autocord..,..since there is no aircraft forum,i stuck this here....


Nice sarge, thanks for sharing.

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Mar 21, 2022 20:16:13   #
sgt hop Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
 
Bluefish wrote:
Nice sarge, thanks for sharing.


you are welcome, thanks for lookin'

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Mar 21, 2022 21:08:19   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
stanikon wrote:
It was so poorly designed that if the passengers in the back of the plane were seated first, the plane would tip back on its tail. The passengers seated in the front therefore had to embark first, then the passengers in the back could get on.


Nice history shot Sgt Hop! :
Re me quoting stanikon, I recently flew on an airbus A-320 and after landing the captain wouldn’t let any one deplane till after the baggage was unloaded. Seems there was a baggage door malfuncion and all baggage was loaded aft. He said with that load if front passengers left first the plane would tip back on it’s tail. I didn’t know what the problem really was but assumed he was joking. Apparently not.

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Mar 22, 2022 07:59:48   #
sgt hop Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
 
sounds like it would tip....someone else said about the tipping.....sounds funny,unless you were the one involved....thanks for looking and the background....

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