Getting tired of the 'raw is data; JPG is not.'
Mar 15, 2022 17:39:22 #
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
Mar 15, 2022 17:41:35 #
davyboy
Loc: Anoka Mn.
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
Thank you sir!
Mar 15, 2022 17:49:50 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
Too simple for UHH. Waaaaay too simple. You'll never get 17 pages out if that !
Mar 15, 2022 17:54:56 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
Mar 15, 2022 17:58:05 #
User ID wrote:
Too simple for UHH. Waaaaay too simple. You'll never get 17 pages out if that !
You are right, even a simpleton could come to that conclusion.
Mar 15, 2022 18:08:12 #
"RAW" is simply a proprietary image format unique to the manufacturer, JPEG is an industry standard format.
Mar 15, 2022 18:36:00 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
This reads as it were composed by our esteemed USVP.
Mar 15, 2022 18:46:16 #
TheShoe
Loc: Lacey, WA
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
And both contain the information for producing images.
Mar 15, 2022 19:41:46 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
I hope this puts that to rest! I'm astonished that you and I agree on something!
Mar 15, 2022 20:00:27 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
'raw is data; JPG is not.' Who said that?
Mar 15, 2022 20:44:08 #
The sky is not really blue. It's just the scattering of light around the 400 nanometer wavelength that we're seeing ... Just as accurate and just as nonsensical as RAW being data, not an image and a JPEG is an image, not data. The obtuse quibblers of these issues should be forced to shoot with DSLRs for the remainders of their dull days.
Mar 15, 2022 23:11:48 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Folks, both are data, nothing else. Both are processed, one more than the other.
That's it.
That's it.
They are both made up of ones and zero's if that is what you mean.
It is how the ones & zeroes are grouped, read, processed, recorded/presented afterwards that makes a distinction if they are; RAW file, text file, image file, 14bit file and so on. IMHO, this distinction is what divides thoughts. Some are referring to the final state of the file and not what they are made of. Because in essence, a JPEG specific CODEC can not open a GIF or PNG, just a well as a RAW codec is only for a specific RAW file extension names.
The word "Data" on the other hand is much broader in scope. Just about anything can become data. In the digital world, it refers to the quantities, characters, or symbols on which operations are performed by a computer, which may be stored and transmitted in the form of electrical signals and recorded on magnetic, optical, solid state or mechanical recording media.
The ones and zeroes by themselves become data when an operation is done on them, just as well as when they are grouped as bits, byte or as whole files; RAW, image, text, pdf and others.
Mar 16, 2022 00:00:59 #
BebuLamar wrote:
'raw is data; JPG is not.' Who said that?
Good question! I was wondering myself. Looks like another one of those artificially created controversies....🙄
Mar 16, 2022 00:07:11 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
srt101fan wrote:
Good question! I was wondering myself. Looks like another one of those artificially created controversies....🙄
I think the fact that JPEG viewers are so pervasive and have been for so long leads folks to just assume that what's in the file is an image...
Mar 16, 2022 02:17:56 #
A raw file contains sensor data. A jpg file contains image data.
As you point out, they're both data but the jpg data is further along in the process of creating an image. More specifically, a jpg file contains pixel data whereas the data in a raw file has to be rendered in order to get pixel information out of it. Monitors and printers need pixel data in a recognised format such as jpg, tif etc.
As you point out, they're both data but the jpg data is further along in the process of creating an image. More specifically, a jpg file contains pixel data whereas the data in a raw file has to be rendered in order to get pixel information out of it. Monitors and printers need pixel data in a recognised format such as jpg, tif etc.
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