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Mar 3, 2022 11:27:25   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
joer wrote:
Your money, your decision...you want it don't you. You opinion is the only one that counts.


Want it, yes. Need it, not convinced I do.

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Mar 3, 2022 11:41:45   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
larryepage wrote:
Your presentation of the puzzle to us is not really complete. We don't know what camera(s) you have or what you shoot. We do know that you are Interested in moderate telephoto focal lengths.


I do mostly fire photography including fire/rescue helicopters and fixed-wing air tankers.

I also have a 17-50 for “closer” stuff and recently acquired the 200-500 as often 300 wasn’t quite enough.

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Mar 3, 2022 11:44:08   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Want it, yes. Need it, not convinced I do.


You don't need but you probably don't need some of the lenes you have.

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Mar 3, 2022 12:01:11   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
kb6kgx wrote:
After you stop laughing at the question, I'm sure many of you will say, "Yes!". And I WOULD like to have this lens. I have an opportunity to buy a "like new" lens for a really good price, BUT… and here's why I'm posting this silly question:

I already have the 70-300mm f4.5-5.6G (the one that retails for just under $500). I also have the 180mm f2.8. So, my question really is would I gain from getting the 80-200 since the 180 is right in the middle and the 70-300 does produce sharp enough images providing the focus is right.

Or should I just stick with what I have and be happy with that?
After you stop laughing at the question, I'm sure ... (show quote)


How often do you shoot 70-170mm in low light ?? ......or that you need max Bokeh ??
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Mar 3, 2022 12:32:15   #
newvy
 
I’m surprised at the majority of responses. I had used a Nikkor 80-200. F2.8 Ed lens. Before vr. I found the optics to be better than my current Sony G 70-300. It’sa but heavier but that’s never been an issue for me. I swore up and down I’d never have a camera bag without this lens and find myself missing it terribly. I’ll have another 70-200 f2.8 As soon as I can afford it. Go try it, if you like it (I think you will) buy it. it’s extremely versatile and will give great results. I hope my opinion helps.

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Mar 3, 2022 14:39:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
kb6kgx wrote:
After you stop laughing at the question, I'm sure many of you will say, "Yes!". And I WOULD like to have this lens. I have an opportunity to buy a "like new" lens for a really good price, BUT… and here's why I'm posting this silly question:

I already have the 70-300mm f4.5-5.6G (the one that retails for just under $500). I also have the 180mm f2.8. So, my question really is would I gain from getting the 80-200 since the 180 is right in the middle and the 70-300 does produce sharp enough images providing the focus is right.

Or should I just stick with what I have and be happy with that?
After you stop laughing at the question, I'm sure ... (show quote)


If it's an old AF-D lens - stay away. Nikon no longer has parts to fix any of them - the single ring for zoom/focus, which is a great lens, and the two ring version - both of which are available for not a not of money.

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Mar 3, 2022 14:54:49   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
imagemeister wrote:
How often do you shoot 70-170mm in low light ?? ......or that you need max Bokeh ??
.


Not that often. To be honest.

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Mar 3, 2022 14:57:24   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Gene51 wrote:
If it's an old AF-D lens - stay away. Nikon no longer has parts to fix any of them - the single ring for zoom/focus, which is a great lens, and the two ring version - both of which are available for not a not of money.


Had the single ring version a few years ago. For a week. Didn’t like it. Sent it back for full refund. Should I have kept it? Paid too much for it anyway.

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Mar 3, 2022 14:58:46   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
newvy wrote:
I’m surprised at the majority of responses. I had used a Nikkor 80-200. F2.8 Ed lens. Before vr. I found the optics to be better than my current Sony G 70-300. It’sa but heavier but that’s never been an issue for me. I swore up and down I’d never have a camera bag without this lens and find myself missing it terribly. I’ll have another 70-200 f2.8 As soon as I can afford it. Go try it, if you like it (I think you will) buy it. it’s extremely versatile and will give great results. I hope my opinion helps.
I’m surprised at the majority of responses. I had ... (show quote)


Yes, your opinion helps, but I also want to avoid duplicating focal lengths.

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Mar 3, 2022 15:37:15   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Yes, your opinion helps, but I also want to avoid duplicating focal lengths.


I have found that there is a big difference in overlap of focal lengths and duplication of focal lengths. Also...having an 18-200mm DX zoom does not duplicate having a 24-70 and a 70-(or 80-)200. Different lenses for different purposes.

Also, I'd disagree at least a little bit with Gene. The reasonably ready availability of used lenses largely offsets the lack of parts or repair support for those lenses. In many cases, just discarding and buying a replacement for an older malfunctioning lens is significantly less expensive than having it repaired. Of course, rethinking is required as that pool of used lenses starts drying up.

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Mar 3, 2022 16:28:49   #
User ID
 
jaymatt wrote:
Do you rally need it? That’s the question.

Acoarst he really needs it.

But we all hafta live with unfulfilled needs. We try to choose our battles wisely. But even MORE important is choosing our advisors (hint - hint).
I have never found parrots to be preferable advisors vs a coin flip.

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Mar 3, 2022 17:25:01   #
hrblaine
 
[quote=n4jee] I now have one lens, a 24-240 f3.5-6.3.

Does this lens work internally or externally? Thanks! Harry

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Mar 3, 2022 17:34:57   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
kb6kgx wrote:
After you stop laughing at the question, I'm sure many of you will say, "Yes!". And I WOULD like to have this lens. I have an opportunity to buy a "like new" lens for a really good price, BUT… and here's why I'm posting this silly question:

I already have the 70-300mm f4.5-5.6G (the one that retails for just under $500). I also have the 180mm f2.8. So, my question really is would I gain from getting the 80-200 since the 180 is right in the middle and the 70-300 does produce sharp enough images providing the focus is right.

Or should I just stick with what I have and be happy with that?
After you stop laughing at the question, I'm sure ... (show quote)


You don't need the new lens!

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Mar 3, 2022 18:53:44   #
User ID
 
DebAnn wrote:
You don't need the new lens!

Very likely not a need based purchase.

But it's a verrrrrrry good idea to buy it, and not a really great idea to pass it by.

Asking about or preaching about "need" is a popular squawk for UHH parrots. The "need thing" is clearly one of those things that "goes without saying". But parrots never need any real reason to endlessly squawk their lines.

Should the OP buy the lens ? The popular answer is apparently "Pretty bird, Polly is a pretty bird !"

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Apr 16, 2022 11:00:17   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Lots of uncorroborated inferences… So typical of UHH…
Folks the poster shoots “…fire photography including fire/rescue helicopters and fixed-wing air tankers.”
Do you ever bother to actually read the post?

If shooting out of a helicopter the AD 80-200mm f/2.8 (D or Non-D version) is a very poor choice
From Experience (see below shot with a 50mm f1.4 Nikkor.) Horrific vibrations that only 1/2000 can tame at the short end... totally forget it at 200mm.

BTW: You will have to firmly tether your rig tightly to your body because you will likely lose your grip and it will fly about in the cockpit. A very dangerous scenario. Everything is tied down flying in turbulence (a potential flying low over massive forest fires etc.).

That said: I shoot the AD 80-200mm f/2.8 (first variant that actually can AF focus at ~ 5 feet)
All the “D” variants are geared differently and will either back or front focus at portrait distance.
See below, and count the eyelashes…

However my fav Nikkor is the AF 180mm f/2.8D which puts the current 70-200mm to shame in my humble estimation. It’s epic for events, sleek, lightweight and has superb color harmonies.
Again see below… It likely will be the one I go the promise land with.

Want mine? It’s yours for only $2500. Same with my 80-200mm f/2.8 (first variant, non-D type),
Again it yours for only $2500. Yep that’s what each is worth to me… They have paid for themselves many times over. Both of those stellar optics will never fail, built to outlast me…

Folks maybe consider supporting your inferences like the commercial shooters who hang out on flickr (a far better platform for serious commercial shooters (from my experience)).

Hope this helps kb6kgx
Thanks and all the best on your journey…

Shooting out of a helicopter with a 50mm f/1.4 to document hurricane bridge damage
Shooting out of a helicopter with a 50mm f/1.4 to ...
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BTS on a Beauty Genre Shoot (count the eyelashes) : AF 80-200mm f/2.8 (one touch, non-D varant)
BTS on a Beauty Genre Shoot (count the eyelashes) ...
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Start of a girls' Cross Country Race: AF 180mm f/2.8D (count the eyelashes)
Start of a girls' Cross Country Race: AF 180mm f/2...
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