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Feb 23, 2022 20:10:17   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
Hi guys, do any of you have any experience using "newer" studio lights for backdrops? Are they any good, or maybe you could suggest an alternative. Thanks in advance.
Ray.

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Feb 23, 2022 21:00:06   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Are you asking about Neewer, the brand?
https://neewer.com/collections/monolight
Can’t comment on them.
I have a mix of Bowens and Godox.

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Feb 23, 2022 21:03:06   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Are you asking about Neewer, the brand?


Sorry, I should have mentioned, softboxes for studio backlighting. And I'm looking at that brand, (neewer), but I'm open to suggestions.
Ray.

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Feb 23, 2022 21:41:21   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I use Paul C Buff White Lightning and Einstein. Also their alien bee ringflash. I bought them because I didn't want to break the bank and if I took one for a shoot at the river and it fell in I could afford to replace it. Softboxes and other light modifiers are inexpensive compared to the major brands. I have had them for at least 12 years. I planned to upgrade to better lights when I bought them but never felt the need to after using them.

I am a little rough with my lights and have had to send three of them to Paul Buff for repair. (ie:One time a light was on a light stand and I tripped over the cord causing the stand to fall over and the light crashed onto a concrete floor).
Each time I sent in a light for repair the turn around was about a week and regardless of how much they fixed it was always like $54.00 for the repair.

Customer service is great. I have called several times with questions about the lights. I was talking to a knowledgeable person within minutes and they took their time explaining things until I understood it. They are a pleasure to do business with.

I don't think you could go wrong with these.

https://www.paulcbuff.com

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Feb 23, 2022 21:57:08   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
jim quist wrote:
I use Paul C Buff White Lightning and Einstein. Also their alien bee ringflash. I bought them because I didn't want to break the bank and if I took one for a shoot at the river and it fell in I could afford to replace it. Softboxes and other light modifiers are inexpensive compared to the major brands. I have had them for at least 12 years. I planned to upgrade to better lights when I bought them but never felt the need to after using them.

I am a little rough with my lights and have had to send three of them to Paul Buff for repair. (ie:One time a light was on a light stand and I tripped over the cord causing the stand to fall over and the light crashed onto a concrete floor).
Each time I sent in a light for repair the turn around was about a week and regardless of how much they fixed it was always like $54.00 for the repair.

Customer service is great. I have called several times with questions about the lights. I was talking to a knowledgeable person within minutes and they took their time explaining things until I understood it. They are a pleasure to do business with.

I don't think you could go wrong with these.

https://www.paulcbuff.com
I use Paul C Buff White Lightning and Einstein. Al... (show quote)

HI Jim, thanks for the reply and information, I'll definitely look into those.
Ray.

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Feb 24, 2022 05:36:09   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
Hi guys, do any of you have any experience using "newer" studio lights for backdrops? Are they any good, or maybe you could suggest an alternative. Thanks in advance.
Ray.


I have been using Paul C. Buff's Alien Bee's for 15 yrs or more I have only had trouble with one I sent it back it was repaired and returned in less than three weeks.
I now have 5 B400' 1-B800 and 1- B1600, I am using the older remote trigger and a wired remote light controller , I too planned to up grade when I first purchased but have found no need.
I haven't been using my lights for quite sometime now, but I do take them out a fire them twice a year to keep the Capacitors from dying. I do use a couple for my indoor closeup.
All of the PCB light modifiers are very reasonably priced and work very well. if you don't plan on keeping your light boxes set I suggest you go for the pop-open's, the folding boxes take up less room when your traveling but the can be a bitch to assemble.
You can see the results of using these light on my Pbase pages.

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Feb 24, 2022 05:54:17   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I have been using Paul C. Buff's Alien Bee's for 15 yrs or more I have only had trouble with one I sent it back it was repaired and returned in less than three weeks.
I now have 5 B400' 1-B800 and 1- B1600, I am using the older remote trigger and a wired remote light controller , I too planned to up grade when I first purchased but have found no need.
I haven't been using my lights for quite sometime now, but I do take them out a fire them twice a year to keep the Capacitors from dying. I do use a couple for my indoor closeup.
All of the PCB light modifiers are very reasonably priced and work very well. if you don't plan on keeping your light boxes set I suggest you go for the pop-open's, the folding boxes take up less room when your traveling but the can be a bitch to assemble.
You can see the results of using these light on my Pbase pages.
I have been using Paul C. Buff's Alien Bee's for 1... (show quote)


HI frank, thanks for the reply and the info, I'm definitely looking into this setup. Just another question, I already have several neewer lights with remote triggers, would the alien bees be compatible with those, or would I need to replace what I already have? Again, thanks for the help.
Ray.

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Feb 24, 2022 05:59:15   #
Haydon
 
I'd look into CheetahStand light modifiers. They're the right blend between economy and durability. Importantly, you will have to know the light modifier mount is to pair them correctly.

https://www.cheetahstand.com

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Feb 24, 2022 06:27:59   #
uhaas2009
 
I chose flashpoint because it’s an Adorama brand and warranty. I have a greater selection on different light sizes. I have the 360 and the 600 but if I go different locations I never take the 600 is to big and heavy. The 360 is lighter and smaller

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Feb 24, 2022 06:29:54   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
HI frank, thanks for the reply and the info, I'm definitely looking into this setup. Just another question, I already have several neewer lights with remote triggers, would the alien bees be compatible with those, or would I need to replace what I already have? Again, thanks for the help.
Ray.


I'M not sure but the may work as optical Slaves

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Feb 24, 2022 08:16:14   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Good post. Thank you. I have Godox speed lights and Stella Lights. Both great. I also bought 2 Neewer led panel kits with stands, because of price. Have never used them, but they appear to be ok. I was particularly pleased with the price, and that is why I bought them. In looking at their site, they have quite a bit of useful lighting equipment and backdrops at very reasonable pricing compared to Buff, Godox and Stella, however, decision really depends on how much and how you will use them. These seem to be more of a light use solution. I would not expect them to last like the others.

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Feb 24, 2022 09:50:59   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
One quick story. I bought a soft box from Neewer, and due to the way it was packed, I accidentally cut the flap on the bag that holds it. I wrote a letter to Neewer, and they sent an entirely new soft box to me. So yes, this is a company that stands by its products, as economical as they are!

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Feb 24, 2022 12:30:32   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
azted wrote:
One quick story. I bought a soft box from Neewer, and due to the way it was packed, I accidentally cut the flap on the bag that holds it. I wrote a letter to Neewer, and they sent an entirely new soft box to me. So yes, this is a company that stands by its products, as economical as they are!


I have lots of Neewer stuff and it *all* works fine. Sure, there is a *cheapness* factor, but absolutely the product(s) do what's advertised. YMMV.

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Feb 24, 2022 13:45:09   #
sloscheider Loc: Minnesota
 
I think much depends on the performance you expect to get from them. Some years ago I got 3 of the Flashpoint flashes from Adorama and they've worked well for my simple needs. I'm sure you get what you pay for if you plan on capturing water drops or splashes you may need to get better lights with a guaranteed flash duration. If you plan to do professional product photography you may need to invest in better lights that guarantee color temperature accuracy. Some lights will pair with your metering system and give you TTL flash metering instead of doing it manually. Some lights have faster recovery times.

Nailing down your expectations will help you determine what to buy.

For about 5 years now my cheap Flashpoint lights have never let me down, haven't even had to replace a flash tube. They've gone through about 20,000 actuations. I suspect Neewer will do about the same?

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Feb 24, 2022 15:46:21   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
Sorry, I should have mentioned, softboxes for studio backlighting. And I'm looking at that brand, (neewer), but I'm open to suggestions.
Ray.


I don't think you want to be using soft boxes for backlighting no matter whose they are. Soft boxes are better for fill and key lighting but not the way to go for backlighting. Backlighting is a light that is aimed towards the camera (or in that general direction) from behind the subject. Light boxes are too big and non directional. Lens flare would be a major issue if you can't gobo or block the stray light from hitting the lens. If your studio or shooting space is really high you might use them by aiming them almost straight down from above but they wouldn't be very controlable. Usually back lights are more directional and controlled with grids and barn doors or even cardboard and clamps. If you really meant back lighting and not lighting the back ground you might want to study some lighting setups before you decide what to buy.
...Cam

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