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Feb 13, 2022 21:03:57   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Roughly a week ago, UHH must have installed new scripting on this UHH discussion board. I use five browsers these day in order to cover various codecs, scripting, and commerce now in highly scripted web sites and security gateways. My email,though, is still set to default to Mozilla SeaMonkey which is the fastest and most trouble free of the five. I get all the texting and nearly everything on UHH and up until a week ago I could also see in line photos and the thumbs up icons, etc. Now all those secondary items have disappeared in Seamonkey and I must transfer the "address" to my most up to date browser called "Mypal Ver. 29.30" which then shows the photos in line and the other scripted attributes of UHH. Of course sites don't inform when they make scripting changes. In the past year nearly all the major commerce sites have new security scripting for checkouts. That includes Walmart. I like many browsers anyway since it lends to opening more windows at once without interfering with each other or their menus. But what scripting comes into play is yet a mystery since changes are made without notice.------

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Feb 13, 2022 21:14:01   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
You mean like when a company re-arranges their site information so my saved direct item links no longer work?

Yea, they should have told me.

BTW - I many rearrange my site and
yea, I won't tell anyone either.

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Feb 13, 2022 21:23:44   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Roughly a week ago, UHH must have installed new scripting on this UHH discussion board. I use five browsers these day in order to cover various codecs, scripting, and commerce now in highly scripted web sites and security gateways. My email,though, is still set to default to Mozilla SeaMonkey which is the fastest and most trouble free of the five. I get all the texting and nearly everything on UHH and up until a week ago I could also see in line photos and the thumbs up icons, etc. Now all those secondary items have disappeared in Seamonkey and I must transfer the "address" to my most up to date browser called "Mypal Ver. 29.30" which then shows the photos in line and the other scripted attributes of UHH. Of course sites don't inform when they make scripting changes. In the past year nearly all the major commerce sites have new security scripting for checkouts. That includes Walmart. I like many browsers anyway since it lends to opening more windows at once without interfering with each other or their menus. But what scripting comes into play is yet a mystery since changes are made without notice.------
Roughly a week ago, UHH must have installed new sc... (show quote)


I've never had anyone tell me the changed scripts or coding. They just do it. When things start acting funny, I usually look for an update to the browser. I, too, use a few browsers. One for one thing, one for another, etc. Banks are particularly good for writing code for one browser, in other words the they do not write for all browsers. My bank only supports chrome. If I use another browser I can not log in.

Is your browser that you use for the hog up to date.

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Feb 13, 2022 21:32:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
frankraney wrote:
I've never had anyone tell me the changed scripts or coding. They just do it. When things start acting funny, I usually look for an update to the browser. I, too, use a few browsers. One for one thing, one for another, etc. Banks are particularly good for writing code for one browser, in other words the they do not write for all browsers. My bank only supports chrome. If I use another browser I can not log in.

Is your browser that you use for the hog up to date.



I use Firefox exclusively.
The ONLY time I use Chrome or Edge is to test coding changes on my website.
Those are the only browsers I have any concern about, the three most common, no others.

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Feb 13, 2022 21:40:34   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Is your monthly UHH subscription payment accurate, card number? expiration date? security code?

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Feb 13, 2022 22:05:19   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:


I use Firefox exclusively.
The ONLY time I use Chrome or Edge is to test coding changes on my website.
Those are the only browsers I have any concern about, the three most common, no others.


Same three I use.

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Feb 13, 2022 22:47:17   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Longshadow wrote:
You mean like when a company re-arranges their site information so my saved direct item links no longer work?

Yea, they should have told me.

BTW - I many rearrange my site and
yea, I won't tell anyone either.


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Probably that also. But UHH did not re-arrange. It is just that it takes recognition of scripting by the browser to see an on line photo or to hit the stored photo buttons, etc. The site remains the same---but if the browser does not recognize the version of scripting--no action takes. place. For instance in line photos do not show up with Mozilla SeaMonkey in the version I use. 32bit. And I suddenly could not recognize checkout with Walmart or Swanson vitamins, etc. But when I installed MyPal browser---those attributes worked and I could check out. I have to transfer the address to do those functions. But then some sites assume it is then not you as they know what computer and browser you used before. There are no secrets to many sites.-they all seem to collect personal data-----ew

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Feb 14, 2022 03:26:40   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Probably that also. But UHH did not re-arrange. It is just that it takes recognition of scripting by the browser to see an on line photo or to hit the stored photo buttons, etc. The site remains the same---but if the browser does not recognize the version of scripting--no action takes. place. For instance in line photos do not show up with Mozilla SeaMonkey in the version I use. 32bit. And I suddenly could not recognize checkout with Walmart or Swanson vitamins, etc. But when I installed MyPal browser---those attributes worked and I could check out. I have to transfer the address to do those functions. But then some sites assume it is then not you as they know what computer and browser you used before. There are no secrets to many sites.-they all seem to collect personal data-----ew
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Feb 14, 2022 03:38:43   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
frankraney wrote:


Is there a message Frank?---

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Feb 14, 2022 09:07:01   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Probably that also. But UHH did not re-arrange. It is just that it takes recognition of scripting by the browser to see an on line photo or to hit the stored photo buttons, etc. The site remains the same---but if the browser does not recognize the version of scripting--no action takes. place. For instance in line photos do not show up with Mozilla SeaMonkey in the version I use. 32bit. And I suddenly could not recognize checkout with Walmart or Swanson vitamins, etc. But when I installed MyPal browser---those attributes worked and I could check out. I have to transfer the address to do those functions. But then some sites assume it is then not you as they know what computer and browser you used before. There are no secrets to many sites.-they all seem to collect personal data-----ew
_______________________ br Probably that also. B... (show quote)

Yea, still changes...
But that's what they did. No company tells anyone what changes they made.
Some are good, some not so much.

Weather*com changed something and must have started some new tracking stuff, storing enough cookies that slowed Firefox down to the point that when I start the browser it took 5+ minutes for the browser to become stable. They had almost 1 Gb of cookies! It took months to figure out the cause of the application slowdown. I initially thought there was something wrong with my computer. (I REALLY don't want to get a new computer!!!) I deleted all their cookies and now block all cookies from them. Now Firefox is stable after 5 seconds.
I hate that, but what can one do, other than block the cookies.

Comcast seems to be another. It can't make up its mind what page it wants to start with.

So I do sympathize with you.
But nothing can be done. It is what it is.

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Feb 14, 2022 09:13:21   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Probably that also. But UHH did not re-arrange. It is just that it takes recognition of scripting by the browser to see an on line photo or to hit the stored photo buttons, etc. The site remains the same---but if the browser does not recognize the version of scripting--no action takes. place. For instance in line photos do not show up with Mozilla SeaMonkey in the version I use. 32bit. And I suddenly could not recognize checkout with Walmart or Swanson vitamins, etc. But when I installed MyPal browser---those attributes worked and I could check out. I have to transfer the address to do those functions. But then some sites assume it is then not you as they know what computer and browser you used before. There are no secrets to many sites.-they all seem to collect personal data-----ew
_______________________ br Probably that also. B... (show quote)


I am absolutely confused by what is going on? Are you talking about the website code or actual scripts? They are two very different things, HTML is a mark-up language that is used to design webpages and your browser interprets that code and displays the information on the screen for you. The only scripting I found on the page were some javascript navigation buttons and the Google Analytics tracking, and that shouldn't cause rendering issues.


Just use Chrome or Firefox and pass over all this other confusing cross talk about technology, because it isn't really making much sense.

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Feb 14, 2022 09:16:57   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Is there a message Frank?---


Only that you solved your own problem. It is your browser, as I insisted. You have to either update, or change. Of the browser you have been using stopped working as expected, them you probably need an update.

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Feb 14, 2022 10:57:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
FYI - Here's a link to the "most popular browser" stats.
Anything not listed, isn't used enough to garner tracking.

https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/default.asp

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Feb 14, 2022 12:02:36   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:
FYI - Here's a link to the "most popular browser" stats.
Anything not listed, isn't used enough to garner tracking.

https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/default.asp


Thanks for the memories, Bill. I haven't been to that site for 20 years, when I was taking a current refresher programming class. During the class, the last assignment was to build a travel site for trips to Africa for a safari, complete with booking, payments, examples for the trip etc. We were put in groups of three. As a joke, in one of the photos of a gorilla or baboon, I cannot remember, we put the instructors head shot in place of the animal face. Needless to say, it got a lot of attention, and since it involved above recommended editing, we got a better grade. I haven't programmed any since then, and probably could not now, with the advancements. I still have the program on a disk somewhere, I think.

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Feb 14, 2022 12:13:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
frankraney wrote:
Thanks for the memories, Bill. I haven't been to that site for 20 years, when I was taking a current refresher programming class. During the class, the last assignment was to build a travel site for trips to Africa for a safari, complete with booking, payments, examples for the trip etc. We were put in groups of three. As a joke, in one of the photos of a gorilla or baboon, I cannot remember, we put the instructors head shot in place of the animal face. Needless to say, it got a lot of attention, and since it involved above recommended editing, we got a better grade. I haven't programmed any since then, and probably could not now, with the advancements. I still have the program on a disk somewhere, I think.
Thanks for the memories, Bill. I haven't been to t... (show quote)

Cool!

I've been programming for so long (50 years now) I can't get away from it.
But I now only do my website coding.

Between IC test systems and general stuff, I think I have (had... ) over a dozen languages under my belt.
I built all kinds of parsers for extracting info from files.
It's in my blood...
I do miss dBase though.

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