Alternative Mirrorless camera: There has been a lot of discussion about Nikon and Sony. What do people think about the Fujifilm X-T4. Light weight with good selection of lenses albeit...

adrianpd

There has been a lot of discussion about Nikon and Sony. What do people think about the Fujifilm X-T4. Light weight with good selection of lenses albeit not full frame. Should be great for field use for birding and sports.
Comments would be welcome.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

A friend just bought one and already loves it. I went one size down years ago to a Panasonic micro-four-thirds. I've never had a DSLR and never thought I should.

For birding and wildlife I use a Panasonic 100-400 and it works wonderfully well for me and takes up little space.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Great camera (with IBIS) and Fuji lenses are world class. I have a Canon FF system, but bought a Fuji X-T2 several years ago, and now I use it 80% of the time because of size, weight and it’s relatively unobtrusive. I’m close to trading the X-T2 up to the X-T4 specifically to get the IBIS. Going forward, I think the Fuji will be my go-to system with the Canon for those occasions that require FF performance.

MDI Mainer

For JPEG images I don't think anyone else can compare to Fuji's color rendition.

WarpedWeaver

I went to the Fuji XT-2 when I was looking for a lighter weight option to replace my Nikon FF. I have not been unhappy with the decision and carry it now on all vacations and hiking adventures. The photos are nice out of camera and I love the film simulations offered. I keep looking at the XT-4 for its IBIS but am not quite ready to upgrade.

kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA

I see that the xt4 is quit a good camera.
I am looking at the compact xe4. My photography is general use, not professional needs.
Will I miss anything that the xt4 has?
I see they both are 26mpxl.
My present camera is a d5500 Nikon.

Canisdirus

Nothing wrong with Fuji...
But crop sensors are on their way out as dedicated systems.
They are being built right into the FF cake now...

So if you have one...yay...have fun with it.
Buying into it as a new system....ummmm...no thanks.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Canisdirus wrote:

Nothing wrong with Fuji...
But crop sensors are on their way out as dedicated systems.
They are being built right into the FF cake now...

So if you have one...yay...have fun with it.
Buying into it as a new system....ummmm...no thanks.

I would just add that I can’t see any difference at ISO 6400 and below between my 31 MP FF Canon 5D4 and my Fuji 24 MP X-T2, even at 100%. At ISO 12,800 the FF is about 3/4 of a stop better in terms of noise, so if you need to shoot at very high ISOs such as indoor sports or need sensors with 40-50MP, then the weight/size and cost of lenses is worth it, but if those don’t describe your shooting style, then…

dbjazz Loc: Long Island, NY

bsprague wrote:

A friend just bought one and already loves it. I went one size down years ago to a Panasonic micro-four-thirds. I've never had a DSLR and never thought I should.

For birding and wildlife I use a Panasonic 100-400 and it works wonderfully well for me and takes up little space.

I agree completely. The 100-400 is amazing. I sold my Canon gear a few years ago, and I'll never look back. Great image quality, and extremely portable.

Canisdirus

TriX wrote:

I would just add that I can’t see any difference at ISO 6400 and below between my 31 MP FF Canon 5D4 and my Fuji 24 MP X-T2, even at 100%. At ISO 12,800 the FF is about 3/4 of a stop better in terms of noise, so if you need to shoot at very high ISOs such as indoor sports or need sensors with 40-50MP, then the weight/size and cost of lenses is worth it, but if those don’t describe your shooting style, then…

I have searched for the mythical cheap micro and crop sensor lenses...hard to find.
Size...yeah...a few years ago...maybe...not now.

FF's are incorporating the crop sensor advantage...

Save the coin...get the best of both.
Certainly better than investing into two separate formats.
One can stay put of course...but the tech is all rolling into FF now.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Canisdirus wrote:

I have searched for the mythical cheap micro and crop sensor lenses...hard to find.
Size...yeah...a few years ago...maybe...not now.

FF's are incorporating the crop sensor advantage...

Save the coin...get the best of both.
Certainly better than investing into two separate formats.
One can stay put of course...but the tech is all rolling into FF now.

Here’s an example: compare the price of the Fuji 70-300 f4-f5.6 ($799) and weight (1.3lbs) to the same equivalent FOV Canon 100-400L f4-f5.6 @ $2399 and 3lbs.j

Or MILC to MILC: Fuji 50-140 f2.8 (2lbs, $1599) to the Canon RF 70-200 f2.8L (3lbs, $2799)

Or, by the time you add a grip to a Fuji X-T4 and a Canon R5 or 5D4 and a 50-140 f2.8 to the Fuji and a 70-200 f2.8L to the Canon, the crop Fuji system weighs a bit over 3Lbs and the FF Canon is almost 6Lbs.

Considering that the average member of UHH with the disposable income to buy what they like is often 60+ years old and is sensitive about the weight of their system, I don’t think Fuji crop systems are disappearing any time soon - they make too much sense to too many. Canon, Nikon and Sony may or may not got to FF only, but this is a Fuji discussion.

Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area

TriX wrote:

Great camera (with IBIS) and Fuji lenses are world class. I have a Canon FF system, but bought a Fuji X-T2 several years ago, and now I use it 80% of the time because of size, weight and it’s relatively unobtrusive. I’m close to trading the X-T2 up to the X-T4 specifically to get the IBIS. Going forward, I think the Fuji will be my go-to system with the Canon for those occasions that require FF performance.

I also have the X-T2 (which I bought in 2016 and love) and “might” buy the X-H2 when it comes out later this year. If I do I will convert my X-T2 to IR.
If you buy the X-T4, instead of selling the X-T2 you may want to think about converting the sensor in your X-T2 to IR, if IR is of any interest to you. For about $300 you would then have a great IR camera! If you sell the X-T2 you’ll probably only get about $500 for it. Just a thought.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Fredrick wrote:

I also have the X-T2 (which I bought in 2016 and love) and “might” buy the X-H2 when it comes out later this year. If I do I will convert my X-T2 to IR.
If you buy the X-T4, instead of selling the X-T2 you may want to think about converting the sensor in your X-T2 to IR, if IR is of any interest to you. For about $300 you would then have a great IR camera! If you sell the X-T2 you’ll probably only get about $500 for it. Just a thought.

Thanks Frederick, I’ve considered exactly that.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

adrianpd wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion about Nikon and Sony. What do people think about the Fujifilm X-T4. Light weight with good selection of lenses albeit not full frame. Should be great for field use for birding and sports.
Comments would be welcome.

Excellent system! So are Panasonic Lumix and Olympus. So are Sony, Nikon, and Canon.

It really depends on “everything” — What you photograph, how big (or whether) you print, your knowledge and experience and skill, your sense of menu organization, ergonomics, physical stamina, and your budget.

DPReview.com and other in-depth review sites can help. Look on YouTube for user reviews of gear you’re considering.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

TriX wrote:

Here’s an example: compare the price of the Fuji 7... (show quote)

Good comparisons.

Fujifilm makes APS-C and medium format instead of APS-C and full frame. They are the only camera company to engineer all X-mount lenses exclusively for APS-C. So they have little incentive to scrimp on quality. (They have a long history of making excellent lenses.)

Thinking full frame is the only viable option is a bit tiresome. The camera market is full of choices, because we all have different needs and preferences.