Is it photography or videography?
Jan 31, 2022 07:44:48 #
A perfect example is todays post by artesdecobo on "Brown pelican launch sequence". A series of stunning images, any one of which would be very impressive - exquisitely sharp in detail - you can feel the effort and energy of the bird as it lifts itself into the air. Some Hoggers post these series, others will post one or several images which are probably from a similar series of images. I always have to ask myself: am I looking at a photograph (I guess as I would define a photograph) or an outtake from a video. And when you shoot at 30fps, 20 fps, or even 10 fps you are actually shooting a video... I am torn, though. While it seems advantageous to find one good image out of a series of 30, on the other hand, whether hand-held or using a tripod with a good ballhead, getting such a good series requires its own set of skills.
Jan 31, 2022 07:54:16 #
sb wrote:
A perfect example is todays post by artesdecobo on... (show quote)
Sometimes taking frames out of videos may be the only way to get a single image you want. The end result is what counts.
will
Jan 31, 2022 08:05:48 #
It is still still photography, whether taken from an umpteen frame-per-second "video frame" or a single well-timed frame from a camera shooting 1 frame per shutter-trip action by the photographer's finger. If the image is frozen, it is still a "still" image, regardless of its surrounding frames. The quality of those images has vastly improved in the past 30 years until now, we are shooting the same quality at 30 fps "motor drive" mode, as we do at single-frame. The skill and luck of the photographer's timing has been taken out of the equation when it comes to getting the precise "critical moment". Now, it is just the photographer's eye in choosing from 10's, or even hundreds of photos surrounding whatever image he chooses to present. He still has to be in the right place, with the right equipment set the right way, and be shooting at the right time to bring us those amazing still images.
Jan 31, 2022 08:24:56 #
Semantics? Perception?
Multiple single images taken in rapid sequence, displayed as individual images.
If they are put together and displayed (in the same place) in rapid sequence, it is a movie. ie. time lapse.
Multiple single images taken in rapid sequence, displayed as individual images.
If they are put together and displayed (in the same place) in rapid sequence, it is a movie. ie. time lapse.
Jan 31, 2022 08:39:47 #
sb wrote:
A perfect example is todays post by artesdecobo on... (show quote)
I agree, its a lot easier to burst many shots than to wait around to take one. REJ.
Jan 31, 2022 09:17:25 #
For certain, shooting at 20fps increases your chances of getting one great photo in a sequence. But in sports photography for instance, it still requires immense skill to achieve accurate focus, interesting angle of view, great expression, proper exposure, etc. it’s not as easy as simply pointing and shooting. Call it video or still, it’s the man/woman behind the camera that makes the difference.
Jan 31, 2022 09:22:36 #
Tomfl101 wrote:
For certain, shooting at 20fps increases your chances of getting one great photo in a sequence. But in sports photography for instance, it still requires immense skill to achieve accurate focus, interesting angle of view, great expression, proper exposure, etc. it’s not as easy as simply pointing and shooting. Call it video or still, it’s the man/woman behind the camera that makes the difference.
While true, what does ones ability have to do with the nomenclature of image types?
Jan 31, 2022 19:14:50 #
Spray and Pray does work
One of the reasons I delayed as long as I did before moving from film to digital was the fear that I would become of the spray and pray group, and I did. I mostly shoot bugs and birds. I used to pride myself on knowing the habits of my targets and getting it right with the single shot available to me. Success rate: 1 in 100, or 1%.
Today I went out to take pictures of ducks. I spent about an hour in the field and shot 157 frames. No big thing, they are free except for the time to cull about 140 of them. Giving me a success rate of 12% not bad except they are of only 6 individual birds looking almost identical besides drifting a little in the wind. Shooting at 5 fps I got exactly two sets of 2 sequential shots. Success rate: 4 in 157. Success rate 2.5%.
I guess the moral is that spray and pray works, at least for me today. No skill involved other than focus, 1/1250 shutter and the ability to hold a 7+ pound camera to my eye for long periods.
One of the reasons I delayed as long as I did before moving from film to digital was the fear that I would become of the spray and pray group, and I did. I mostly shoot bugs and birds. I used to pride myself on knowing the habits of my targets and getting it right with the single shot available to me. Success rate: 1 in 100, or 1%.
Today I went out to take pictures of ducks. I spent about an hour in the field and shot 157 frames. No big thing, they are free except for the time to cull about 140 of them. Giving me a success rate of 12% not bad except they are of only 6 individual birds looking almost identical besides drifting a little in the wind. Shooting at 5 fps I got exactly two sets of 2 sequential shots. Success rate: 4 in 157. Success rate 2.5%.
I guess the moral is that spray and pray works, at least for me today. No skill involved other than focus, 1/1250 shutter and the ability to hold a 7+ pound camera to my eye for long periods.
Jan 31, 2022 19:22:01 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
Spray and Pray does work
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Works great for ocean waves on the rocks!
Ya, never know what they'll be doing.
Jan 31, 2022 20:09:38 #
sb wrote:
A perfect example is todays post by artesdecobo on... (show quote)
You ask, "Is it photography or videography"?
To me the result is photography if the 'intent' was not to make a 'video film'. The excellent results have simply used those superb tools we have available today.
I'll put money on it that it won't be long before we hear that 'it's not skill', those are just 'candid snaps' and we never needed that tool in our day because we 'planned and knew exactly when to press the shutter'
Jan 31, 2022 22:47:47 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
The person who defined it as "time-lapse" photography hit it on the head. It is a moving picture whether film or digital. Certainly with wings flapping---if you want the proper moment---take a stream of time-lapses as Mr. Maybridge did in the late 1880s. He didn't calll it either video or movies as they weren't invented, of course.----ew
Feb 1, 2022 01:03:56 #
Photography or videography: How the final product is presented is what determines it, not the method of image capture.
Feb 1, 2022 02:00:04 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
[quote=rook2c4]Photography or videography: How the final product is presented is what determines it, not the method of image capture.
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Yes, that is the answer. Final output---"StilPhotography"----"Cinematography"---"Videography"---"Time-lapse Photography."------
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Yes, that is the answer. Final output---"StilPhotography"----"Cinematography"---"Videography"---"Time-lapse Photography."------
Feb 1, 2022 08:25:06 #
Feb 1, 2022 09:05:22 #
I always prefer burst mode over video for single frame images, because burst mode gives full resolution, while video is lower.
“Assuming your camera has a video mode, the captured video will generally be at a much lower resolution that the sensor is capable of for still shots. Burst mode is the camera shooting multiple still images at full resolution.”
www.quora.com/In-photography-what-is-the-difference-between-burst-mode-and-video-mode
“Assuming your camera has a video mode, the captured video will generally be at a much lower resolution that the sensor is capable of for still shots. Burst mode is the camera shooting multiple still images at full resolution.”
www.quora.com/In-photography-what-is-the-difference-between-burst-mode-and-video-mode
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