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Jan 26, 2022 16:53:20   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
There has been much discussion of this topic here on UHH. That suggests to me that we can have a bit of fun with it.
I will post five pictures: Two from cell phones, two from full frame cameras, and one from a 6x6 film camera, wet processed and enlarged. Three have been printed, and all have had some measure of post processing.
Please post your analysis as to which is which. In two days I will reveal the truth. I have omitted EXIF data deliberately.











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Jan 26, 2022 16:56:03   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
An image is only as good as the device it's being displayed on. By the was, nice pics...

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Jan 26, 2022 16:57:24   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
mikegreenwald wrote:
There has been much discussion of this topic here on UHH. That suggests to me that we can have a bit of fun with it.
I will post five pictures: Two from cell phones, two from full frame cameras, and one from a 6x6 film camera, wet processed and enlarged. Three have been printed, and all have had some measure of post processing.
Please post your analysis as to which is which. In two days I will reveal the truth. I have omitted EXIF data deliberately.



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Jan 26, 2022 17:02:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
My takeaway is that it doesn't matter with what camera a picture was taken.
It's either a good shot or it's not.

Me? I don't care what camera was used, only if I like the picture.

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Jan 26, 2022 17:03:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
An image is only as good as the device it's being displayed on. By the was, nice pics...


Yea, that too.

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Jan 26, 2022 17:11:21   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Scanned images are only as good as the pixel resolution of the scanner.

Note the updated width of UHH thumbnails. I'm not sure of the new standard, but it's nearer 1200px wide, up from the older 800px limit. Your vertical aspect images could have made use of that 'wider' resolution option.

All the images are interesting. Only the hunter and dog show some weaknesses in the thumbnail with digital noise in the forehead and some odd processing in the man's knee on the ground. These are mostly hidden in the lower resolution of the thumbnail.

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Jan 26, 2022 17:13:18   #
plumbbob1
 
I give up. Love the pics with the Dog and the one of the Coon.

Can't wait to see the answers.

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Jan 26, 2022 17:17:41   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
At least for me --
It's always been & continues to be all about camera lenses --
Photography has been my hobby since the late 1960s --
I purchased my 1st DSLR in late 2010
Most of the glass I own & still use was purchased when I shot Canon SLR's --
The only reason I stay away from crop sensor cameras is simply that I do not want to compromise my lenses angle of view -- & I sure as hell don't want to buy any more lenses
I'm forced to use but despise cell phones

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Jan 26, 2022 17:24:00   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
This isn’t a side-by-side comparison….so what’s the point of guessing? If it's a good pic.....it's a good pic.

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Jan 26, 2022 18:31:45   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
mikegreenwald wrote:
There has been much discussion of this topic here on UHH. That suggests to me that we can have a bit of fun with it.
I will post five pictures: Two from cell phones, two from full frame cameras, and one from a 6x6 film camera, wet processed and enlarged. Three have been printed, and all have had some measure of post processing.
Please post your analysis as to which is which. In two days I will reveal the truth. I have omitted EXIF data deliberately.


Ignoring EXIF data, images of this size on a computer monitor taken with decent cameras, including phone cameras, will be virtually indistinguishable, regardless of sensor format. You could probably see subtle differences and clues comparing the original files and looking side by side. I think you're making a point that you can get excellent images from different types of cameras, including phones. If they're going to be viewed on a computer screen, that's true.

By the way, very nice pictures.

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Jan 26, 2022 21:13:32   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:
My takeaway is that it doesn't matter with what camera a picture was taken.
It's either a good shot or it's not.

Me? I don't care what camera was used, only if I like the picture.


Yep. Does it "send me" someplace? Teach me? Change my mind? Pi$$ me off? Make me feel good? If YES, then the photographer did something well.

Just yesterday, I sent an old classmate a grab shot style photo of her and her dad at our 40th college reunion. It wasn't amazingly special, technically OR compositionally, but it was important to HER. Her dad died 5 months after that reunion, at 95. She was appropriately moved by it. It doesn't matter what format I used. It accomplished the mission.

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Jan 26, 2022 21:19:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yep. Does it "send me" someplace? Teach me? Change my mind? Pi$$ me off? Make me feel good? If YES, then the photographer did something well.

Just yesterday, I sent an old classmate a grab shot style photo of her and her dad at our 40th college reunion. It wasn't amazingly special, technically OR compositionally, but it was important to HER. Her dad died 5 months after that reunion, at 95. She was appropriately moved by it. It doesn't matter what format I used. It accomplished the mission.
Yep. Does it "send me" someplace? Teach ... (show quote)


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Jan 26, 2022 22:04:30   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
mikegreenwald wrote:
There has been much discussion of this topic here on UHH. That suggests to me that we can have a bit of fun with it.
I will post five pictures: Two from cell phones, two from full frame cameras, and one from a 6x6 film camera, wet processed and enlarged. Three have been printed, and all have had some measure of post processing.
Please post your analysis as to which is which. In two days I will reveal the truth. I have omitted EXIF data deliberately.


Personally, I like a well made photo but do not care an iota what was used in making it, who made it, nor care for any processing done to accomplish the look. A good photo is a good photo, that's it.

As for a game,sure.

Based on the choices:
Racoon - Full frame
Man & Dog (bad edit) - phone camera
House - 6x6
Trees - phone camera
Fire - full frame

My reasons;
Racoon - Just betting it was a wild racoon, in which a phone camera would not have the reach. A 6x6 is also a good candidate for this if it has the reach, because a small sensor would be hard pressed to create the bokeh.

Man & Dog. Any camera can make this photo. The flat bokeh and rough selection can be a bad edit or a phone AI.

House - 6x6 = can actually be anything. Just following logic that most would use a medium camera for scenes. Also lots of sharp tiny details. Generally not a quality of a smaller sensor.

Trees - phone camera. Again can be anything, I'm just betting on the wide depth of field and softness to be a small lens & sensor.

Fire - full frame. Logically this would be phone camera. I'm torn between the trees and this image to be swapped LOL

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Jan 26, 2022 22:43:57   #
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rmorrison1116 wrote:
An image is only as good as the device it's being displayed on. By the was, nice pics...

Such a polite way of saying “What kinda jerk pretends to a geeky faux technical comparison and posts only thumbnails, neglecting to store the originals ?”

Clearly that was very benign of you. Makes me kinda throw up in my mouth imagining if I’d ever hafta be that extra super nice. Good job !

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Jan 26, 2022 22:50:42   #
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Longshadow wrote:
My takeaway is that it doesn't matter with what camera a picture was taken.
It's either a good shot or it's not.

Me? I don't care what camera was used, only if I like the picture.

Perhaps it might matter just a little bit if any of the posted pix were at all likable.

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