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Jan 23, 2022 17:48:02   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Lately here and on some Face Book photo groups there has been a bit of discussion on use of extenders when you either can't get the longer lens you want or need to wait to save enough money.
And of course you have the two sides (All extender images are Crap! vs They are great!) going at each other over image quality.

Well I use extenders fairly often. I do only use them on the lenses that the maker says they are compatible with. I figure the guys who designed and made them might know a thing or two about using them.

I think they do great when used properly.

Here is the OOC and a very heavy crop and PP rework of a shot I just posted to several forums today.

Male House Finch perched on a thorn at the top of a potted Mandarin Orange tree in my yard at aprx. 40' with strong late afternoon back lighting and fill flash taken last week. PP was done in LrC, PS & Topaz Denoise AI.
Canon 90D, Canon 100-400L mk2 +1.4x III @ 490mm, 1/2000 @ f/8.0, ISO-1600

Out of Camera with nothing done
Out of Camera with nothing done...
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After major crop and PP
After major crop and PP...
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Jan 23, 2022 18:53:24   #
Susan yamakawa
 
I’m glad you fixed it😊👍

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Jan 23, 2022 19:59:00   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
A beautiful result, Bob! Of course, you started with a first class lens and used a compatible tc, as you described. Amazing things happen when people follow instructions (LOL).

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Jan 23, 2022 20:32:26   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
My 1.4 extender works just fine on each of the lenses. My 2x shoots a little soft on my 70-200. But when we use it with the 400 f4 DO or the 500 f4 it’s sharp. Not sure why it works better with the longer primes.

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Jan 23, 2022 21:47:13   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Susan yamakawa wrote:
I’m glad you fixed it😊👍


Thank you, oh, someone elsewhere asked about the high light in the bird's eye.

Enlarge it enough and you see it is the end of our swimming pool (between myself and the bird) reflecting the spill from the flash.

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Jan 23, 2022 21:50:28   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
UTMike wrote:
A beautiful result, Bob! Of course, you started with a first class lens and used a compatible tc, as you described. Amazing things happen when people follow instructions (LOL).


Thank You

Huh??? "instructions"??? What are "instructions"?

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Jan 23, 2022 22:05:32   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jim quist wrote:
My 1.4 extender works just fine on each of the lenses. My 2x shoots a little soft on my 70-200. But when we use it with the 400 f4 DO or the 500 f4 it’s sharp. Not sure why it works better with the longer primes.


In the case of the Canon 1.4x III it actually says it works best with primes 300mm and over or the some of the L class zooms.

I have a 70-300L I got from someone here on UHH with a Kenko MC4 1.4x for Canon EF lenses. It is totally functional for all things with that lens. Not even the Canon 1.4x III have full functions with that lens.

The lens came out in 2010.

The extender came out in 2011 and was meant for primes and a limited number of zooms. (the various 70-200L's and the two 100-400L versions only)

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Jan 24, 2022 05:26:24   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
robertjerl wrote:
Lately here and on some Face Book photo groups there has been a bit of discussion on use of extenders when you either can't get the longer lens you want or need to wait to save enough money.
And of course you have the two sides (All extender images are Crap! vs They are great!) going at each other over image quality.

Well I use extenders fairly often. I do only use them on the lenses that the maker says they are compatible with. I figure the guys who designed and made them might know a thing or two about using them.

I think they do great when used properly.

Here is the OOC and a very heavy crop and PP rework of a shot I just posted to several forums today.

Male House Finch perched on a thorn at the top of a potted Mandarin Orange tree in my yard at aprx. 40' with strong late afternoon back lighting and fill flash taken last week. PP was done in LrC, PS & Topaz Denoise AI.
Canon 90D, Canon 100-400L mk2 +1.4x III @ 490mm, 1/2000 @ f/8.0, ISO-1600
Lately here and on some Face Book photo groups the... (show quote)

Ni e shots

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Jan 24, 2022 08:10:18   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Yes, there has been a lot of discussion on this site about the use of extenders. Personally, I would not be without them for my bird photography. With my Sony gear, other than the loss of light and necessary exposure adjustments, I find close to zero impact on image quality. I can’t say that regarding my previously owned Canon gear.

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Jan 24, 2022 09:59:19   #
jederick Loc: Northern Utah
 
Bob, Thanks for the nice example...wish tc's were available for my Panasonic lenses!!

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Jan 24, 2022 11:07:59   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
robertjerl wrote:
Lately here and on some Face Book photo groups there has been a bit of discussion on use of extenders when you either can't get the longer lens you want or need to wait to save enough money.
And of course you have the two sides (All extender images are Crap! vs They are great!) going at each other over image quality.

Well I use extenders fairly often. I do only use them on the lenses that the maker says they are compatible with. I figure the guys who designed and made them might know a thing or two about using them.

I think they do great when used properly.

Here is the OOC and a very heavy crop and PP rework of a shot I just posted to several forums today.

Male House Finch perched on a thorn at the top of a potted Mandarin Orange tree in my yard at aprx. 40' with strong late afternoon back lighting and fill flash taken last week. PP was done in LrC, PS & Topaz Denoise AI.
Canon 90D, Canon 100-400L mk2 +1.4x III @ 490mm, 1/2000 @ f/8.0, ISO-1600
Lately here and on some Face Book photo groups the... (show quote)


I’d say the extender did its job. But the PP also made a huge difference as well, I am sure.

Stan

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Jan 24, 2022 16:51:55   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
robertjerl wrote:
Lately here and on some Face Book photo groups there has been a bit of discussion on use of extenders when you either can't get the longer lens you want or need to wait to save enough money.
And of course you have the two sides (All extender images are Crap! vs They are great!) going at each other over image quality.

Well I use extenders fairly often. I do only use them on the lenses that the maker says they are compatible with. I figure the guys who designed and made them might know a thing or two about using them.

I think they do great when used properly.

Here is the OOC and a very heavy crop and PP rework of a shot I just posted to several forums today.

Male House Finch perched on a thorn at the top of a potted Mandarin Orange tree in my yard at aprx. 40' with strong late afternoon back lighting and fill flash taken last week. PP was done in LrC, PS & Topaz Denoise AI.
Canon 90D, Canon 100-400L mk2 +1.4x III @ 490mm, 1/2000 @ f/8.0, ISO-1600
Lately here and on some Face Book photo groups the... (show quote)

The OEM teleconverters made for a particular lens work very well. A lot of 3rd party teleconverters are, indeed, crap!

bwa

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Jan 24, 2022 17:21:08   #
Moondoggie Loc: Southern California
 
Terrific results. Much better. Thanks for sharing your work.

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Jan 24, 2022 17:43:46   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
J-SPEIGHT wrote:
Ni e shots


Thanks

Uh, your computer has run out of lower case "C's"???

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Jan 24, 2022 17:45:09   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Nalu wrote:
Yes, there has been a lot of discussion on this site about the use of extenders. Personally, I would not be without them for my bird photography. With my Sony gear, other than the loss of light and necessary exposure adjustments, I find close to zero impact on image quality. I can’t say that regarding my previously owned Canon gear.

Good to hear.
Well, I like my results with my Canon gear.

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