Cost of citizenship… (Page 2): ...and get paid for it...

fantom Loc: Colorado

DeeAndre wrote:

And now you can just walk across the boarder.

...and get paid for it...

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

fantom wrote:

That's exactly how it worked for a great, great etc etc. grandfather who came here in the 1630's. It was completely voluntary and the benefactor was a neighbor who loaned him the money in exchange for his two or three years of service (labor).

Interesting. Where did he come in at? One branch of my ancestors came on the Mary & John in the 1630's with the Great Migration of the Puritans and settled at Dorchester south of Boston?

fantom Loc: Colorado

RodeoMan wrote:

Interesting. Where did he come in at? One branch of my ancestors came on the Mary & John in the 1630's with the Great Migration of the Puritans and settled at Dorchester south of Boston?

I am going by memory and don't have the time to look into the files right now. I had two sets of ancestors that came over in the early to mid 1630's from England on different ships. The ancestors were named Loomis and Gillett and both families settled in Windsor, CT. Loomis came over on his own boat but landed in CT.

I am pretty sure the one who came in at Dorchester (Gillett) came on the John and Mary. Or, maybe the Helen and Mary. If you google the John and Mary you might be able to find the manifest showing everything your ancestor brought with him. I found a manifest for one of the families. Also, you stand a very good chance of finding a picture of the boat or one that is almost exactly like it.

I visited a museum in Braintree, England that had models of the ships used and they said that all were pretty much the same.

The one who landed at Dorchester left there pretty quickly and moved to Windsor, CT---probably in less than a year. There was a lot of bad blood between several groups of Puritans about that time that almost resulted in a shooting war between them and the Pilgrims at Plymouth. The Pilgrims were not very nice people.

There is a book titled "Mayflower" that was written about 10 years ago that goes into a great deal of detail regarding the Pilgrims and their relationships with Indians and other settlements. A very interesting book that provides a great look into what life was like back then. Many differences from what they teach in school.

I think it is almost certain that our ancestors were on the same boat. What was the name of yours? For over two hundred years my family continued to name their children after friends and relatives in Windsor. At the start of the Civil War my great grandfather ran away from home in New York to enlist in the Army. He used the names of family friends from Windsor as the alias he used when he enlisted. Wolcott was the middle name he used. Any relation??

Your ancestors could have migrated to Windsor also. There is a great deal of info regarding early Windsor and many, many records of births, deaths, land taxes, properties etc.

I have to go now but hope this info was helpful.

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RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

fantom wrote:

I am going by memory and don't have the time to look into the files right now. I had two sets of ancestors that came over in the early to mid 1630's from England on different ships. The ancestors were named Loomis and Gillett and both families settled in Windsor, CT. Loomis came over on his own boat but landed in CT.

I am pretty sure the one who came in at Dorchester (Gillett) came on the John and Mary. Or, maybe the Helen and Mary. If you google the John and Mary you might be able to find the manifest showing everything your ancestor brought with him. I found a manifest for one of the families. Also, you stand a very good chance of finding a picture of the boat or one that is almost exactly like it.

I visited a museum in Braintree, England that had models of the ships used and they said that all were pretty much the same.

The one who landed at Dorchester left there pretty quickly and moved to Windsor, CT---probably in less than a year. There was a lot of bad blood between several groups of Puritans about that time that almost resulted in a shooting war between them and the Pilgrims at Plymouth. The Pilgrims were not very nice people.

There is a book titled "Mayflower" that was written about 10 years ago that goes into a great deal of detail regarding the Pilgrims and their relationships with Indians and other settlements. A very interesting book that provides a great look into what life was like back then. Many differences from what they teach in school.

I think it is almost certain that our ancestors were on the same boat. What was the name of yours? For over two hundred years my family continued to name their children after friends and relatives in Windsor. At the start of the Civil War my great grandfather ran away from home in New York to enlist in the Army. He used the names of family friends from Windsor as the alias he used when he enlisted. Wolcott was the middle name he used. Any relation??

Your ancestors could have migrated to Windsor also. There is a great deal of info regarding early Windsor and many, many records of births, deaths, land taxes, properties etc.

I have to go now but hope this info was helpful.

I am going by memory and don't have the time to lo... (show quote)

I have been at this for several decades. The ship was the Mary & John. I had ancestors on the Mary & John. William Phelps and William Gaylord were two. I have not found a connection to the Wolcott's that I can remember. However when you do this long enough, you get a lot of names floating around in your head. I do know that Wolcott is an important name in colonial America. I do not believe that your Loomis ancestor came over on the Mary & John, but he did come over during the time as part of the Great Migration. One of his descendants married a daughter of my 5th great grandfather. There was a Zaccheus Gillett who married into the family. The Gilletts were on the Mary & John. The Rev William Gillett, Rector at Chaffcomb contributed two bachelor sons to the voyage. Yes my roots are deep in Windsor. People who share a grandparent regardless of how distant are cousins. I have no doubt that we are cousins, albeit distant ones.