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Jan 20, 2022 08:54:06   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
NCAA announced a policy change regarding t*********r athletes.

Instead of announcing an actual policy change, it seems they are kicking the can to each individual sport. The NCAA won't have an umbrella policy regarding sports in general. They leave it to each sport to make their own decisions.

So they decided not to protect true female athletes from being forced to compete with athletes born male but who identify as female.

They just punted the decisions down the hierarchy chain.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ncaa-changes-t*********r-athlete-participation-policy

A sad moment of indecision.

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Jan 20, 2022 09:02:19   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
mwalsh wrote:
NCAA announced a policy change regarding t*********r athletes.

Instead of announcing an actual policy change, it seems they are kicking the can to each individual sport. The NCAA won't have an umbrella policy regarding sports in general. They leave it to each sport to make their own decisions.

So they decided not to protect true female athletes from being forced to compete with athletes born male but who identify as female.

They just punted the decisions down the hierarchy chain.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ncaa-changes-t*********r-athlete-participation-policy

A sad moment of indecision.
NCAA announced a policy change regarding t********... (show quote)


this is no worse than the bidding war they have created for good atheletes..they have actually turned college ball into semi-proball.....atheletes can leave anytime to another high bidder for more money....IMHO a 1 year waiting period would help stop this BS

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Jan 20, 2022 09:08:29   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
wilpharm wrote:
this is no worse than the bidding war they have created for good atheletes..they have actually turned college ball into semi-proball.....atheletes can leave anytime to another high bidder for more money....IMHO a 1 year waiting period would help stop this BS


I am not against allowing college athletes to get some financial benefit from the millions of dollars they draw to their schools.

But allowing biological boys to compete against girls is absurd and will destroy female collegiate sports.

I accept that there are t***s athletes...and not allowing them to compete against girls may seem unfair to the liberal mindset. But life is not always fair. The true female athletes need to be protected from physically superior athletes born with the physical advantages of a developing male body.

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Jan 20, 2022 09:18:40   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
mwalsh wrote:
I am not against allowing college athletes to get some financial benefit from the millions of dollars they draw to their schools.

But allowing biological boys to compete against girls is absurd and will destroy female collegiate sports.

I accept that there are t***s athletes...and not allowing them to compete against girls may seem unfair to the liberal mindset. But life is not always fair. The true female athletes need to be protected from physically superior athletes born with the physical advantages of a developing male body.
I am not against allowing college athletes to get ... (show quote)


I don't even know why this is a consideration, b********l m**es have no place in women's sports no matter how insane the progressives prove themselves to be. It is a shame that the folks that are in charge are so overly concerned with woke appearances that they can't correctly make the obvious and scientifically proven decisions.

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Jan 20, 2022 09:32:42   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Then you have to sort out stuff like this:

The claim that Lia Thomas (b********l m**e, t*********r female) colluded with Isaac Henig (b********l f****e, t*********r male) to allow Henig to win, in an attempt to disprove the assumption a b********l m**e could not be beaten by a b********l f****e competitor. Thomas swam the 100 freestyle 3 seconds slower than she/he had done it previously.

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Jan 20, 2022 10:14:41   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
David Martin wrote:
Then you have to sort out stuff like this:

The claim that Lia Thomas (b********l m**e, t*********r female) colluded with Isaac Henig (b********l f****e, t*********r male) to allow Henig to win, in an attempt to disprove the assumption a b********l m**e could not be beaten by a b********l f****e competitor. Thomas swam the 100 freestyle 3 seconds slower than she/he had done it previously.


This keeps the world interesting, doesn't It? I think the entire NFL should declare themselves as female for this upcoming season so they have to start an entire new set of stats and records.

It truly is infuriating to see true female athletes displaced by t***s females.

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Jan 20, 2022 10:22:01   #
pendennis
 
ABC-Easy answer is for the competitor to take a DNA test. Wh**ever the DNA shows is what the athlete is.

"T*********rism" is all in the mind.

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Jan 20, 2022 10:23:42   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
"T***s female athletes must demonstrate a total testosterone level in serum below 10 nmol/L for at least 12 consecutive months". This makes it OK for one born as a boy with increased bone structure, lung capacity, and muscle to compete against girls born without those advantages?

Where is the real world science on this?

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Jan 20, 2022 10:23:51   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
pendennis wrote:
ABC-Easy answer is for the competitor to take a DNA test. Wh**ever the DNA shows is what the athlete is.

Brilliant.
Rather than male or female, we should have teams that are either XX or XY.

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Jan 20, 2022 10:33:48   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
mwalsh wrote:
I am not against allowing college athletes to get some financial benefit from the millions of dollars they draw to their schools.

But allowing biological boys to compete against girls is absurd and will destroy female collegiate sports.

I accept that there are t***s athletes...and not allowing them to compete against girls may seem unfair to the liberal mindset. But life is not always fair. The true female athletes need to be protected from physically superior athletes born with the physical advantages of a developing male body.
I am not against allowing college athletes to get ... (show quote)


Thats wrong

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Jan 20, 2022 10:38:25   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
mwalsh wrote:
I am not against allowing college athletes to get some financial benefit from the millions of dollars they draw to their schools.


I am dead set against it. College is for learning nothing else. ( and i am an avid follower of nearly all sports)

I do thing that if the kids aspire to make their sport their adult profession then they should be able to major in that to include life sk**ls they will need to be a successful profession- business acumen. physiology, basic contract law, investments etc + basic sk**ls reading writing. and

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Jan 20, 2022 10:40:10   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
This whole thing is misunderstood and the process and rules have been rushed through in a vague attempt to try to be "woke", (and I h**e that term). Personally I have no interest or problem with anyone deciding that the g****r they choose is different from that with which they were born. But, when it comes to a competitive, or similar situation, the biological sex of a person, and how they were formed during the "growing" years can have a huge effect on performance, (either positive or negative), and especially for athletes. For an extreme example, a professional b********l m**e fighter who been a successful contender for, let's say, ten years, would without a doubt have a massive advantage over a b********l f****e, if "the b********l m**e" decided to identify as a female and they got in the ring for a fight. The muscle mass, bone density, reaction time, none of that changes because he is now a she. I don't know what the best solution would be, and people should be free to express themselves however they choose, but in some cases it's just not reasonable or fair. Maybe new categories in some arenas would work? Again, to use the fighting example, why not have male vs male, female vs female, (as we already use), but add a new "t***s" category for those who would otherwise have an unfair, (and somewhat dangerous) advantage/disadvantage? This 3rd category obviously would not be needed in all situations, (thinking the world chess championship, or pool /snooker, etc), but especially where strength is important, I think it should be considered. Anyway, I hope I didn't piss too many people off with this idea, (I'm sure some will find some offense in it though), so stay safe all and have a great day!

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Jan 20, 2022 10:47:21   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
This whole thing is misunderstood and the process and rules have been rushed through in a vague attempt to try to be "woke", (and I h**e that term). Personally I have no interest or problem with anyone deciding that the g****r they choose is different from that with which they were born. But, when it comes to a competitive, or similar situation, the biological sex of a person, and how they were formed during the "growing" years can have a huge effect on performance, (either positive or negative), and especially for athletes. For an extreme example, a professional b********l m**e fighter who been a successful contender for, let's say, ten years, would without a doubt have a massive advantage over a b********l f****e, if "the b********l m**e" decided to identify as a female and they got in the ring for a fight. The muscle mass, bone density, reaction time, none of that changes because he is now a she. I don't know what the best solution would be, and people should be free to express themselves however they choose, but in some cases it's just not reasonable or fair. Maybe new categories in some arenas would work? Again, to use the fighting example, why not have male vs male, female vs female, (as we already use), but add a new "t***s" category for those who would otherwise have an unfair, (and somewhat dangerous) advantage/disadvantage? This 3rd category obviously would not be needed in all situations, (thinking the world chess championship, or pool /snooker, etc), but especially where strength is important, I think it should be considered. Anyway, I hope I didn't piss too many people off with this idea, (I'm sure some will find some offense in it though), so stay safe all and have a great day!

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Jan 20, 2022 18:09:17   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Apparently Caitlyn (Bruce) Jenner, Olympic athlete feels kinda like I do on this issue.

The NCAA punted!

https://www.foxnews.com/media/caitlyn-jenner-lia-thomas-ncaa-t*********r-participation-policy

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Jan 20, 2022 19:33:49   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
mwalsh wrote:
I am not against allowing college athletes to get some financial benefit from the millions of dollars they draw to their schools.

But allowing biological boys to compete against girls is absurd and will destroy female collegiate sports.

I accept that there are t***s athletes...and not allowing them to compete against girls may seem unfair to the liberal mindset. But life is not always fair. The true female athletes need to be protected from physically superior athletes born with the physical advantages of a developing male body.
I am not against allowing college athletes to get ... (show quote)


Aren't there sports where bring male offers no advantage? (honest question) If there are, wouldn't leaving it up to individual sports make sense? (I'm asking, not advocating)

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