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Jan 16, 2022 15:26:11   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
Hey thanks so much for the recommendation! I can’t imagine a much better recommendation than three safaris. Also thanks for the tip on the book….

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Jan 16, 2022 15:27:41   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
Wow……spectacular images! Ok, I’m sold on the Sony!

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Jan 16, 2022 15:29:16   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
Very nice photos….I love shooting the car shows. Do you shoot in RAW….? ANd what do you use for post processing? And do you ever bracket your photos? Just curious as to how you’re using the camera.

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Jan 16, 2022 15:40:16   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
jcwall396 wrote:
Wow……spectacular images! Ok, I’m sold on the Sony!


If you click "quote reply" under the post you are responding to as I did here, we can tell who you are addressing.

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Jan 16, 2022 15:44:00   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
PHRubin wrote:
If you click "quote reply" under the post you are responding to as I did here, we can tell who you are addressing.


Oops….sorry about that!

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Jan 16, 2022 15:45:26   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 


Very nice photos…..I’ve shot several car shows on the panhandle and it’s something I enjoy. I’m guessing you shoot in RAW? Do you ever bracket your images using this camera?

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Jan 16, 2022 17:01:53   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jcwall396 wrote:
Very nice photos…..I’ve shot several car shows on the panhandle and it’s something I enjoy. I’m guessing you shoot in RAW? Do you ever bracket your images using this camera?


Thanks!

No, I don't bracket, unless you mean HDR. Frankly, when I had a D200, HDR bracketing was important. With the RX10M4, D800 and D810 - I find I rarely have to use HDR. And yes, I shoot only raw.

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Jan 16, 2022 17:03:20   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jcwall396 wrote:
Very nice photos….I love shooting the car shows. Do you shoot in RAW….? ANd what do you use for post processing? And do you ever bracket your photos? Just curious as to how you’re using the camera.


I pretty much use Capture One for my Sony images and I only shoot raw. I find I get to the result I like faster and the result is better than with the others I use (Lightroom, DXO, and On1).

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Jan 16, 2022 17:30:50   #
RVAshooter Loc: Richmond, VA
 
jcwall396 wrote:
I am an old photography dog and currently own a Nikon D750 and D780 with multiple lenses. As with many posts I see here, the weight of taking multiple lenses on a trip (meaning vacation) is starting to wear on me as I get older (I'm 65). I had a Panasonic FZ1000 several years ago and sold it, and am now kind of wishing I had it back for some of the shorter trips. Having said that.....I've read several reviews on the Sony RX10 IV and the Panasonic FZ2500 and both look to be awesome cameras. But trying to choose which one? Cost isn't really a factor, just want the best pictures I can get. It looks like the Sony might have an edge on sharpness and maybe low light? But not sure. Do any of you have any "real life" experience with these particular models?
I am an old photography dog and currently own a Ni... (show quote)


I use a Sony RX-10 iv when I want minimum weight while hiking but expect to need some telephoto reach. The results are very good compared to my usual full-frame cameras and their bulky lenses. The only issue I have with the RX-10 is with noise at 1600 ISO in deep shadows, and that can be fixed with Topaz Denoise. Also, I don't use back button focus as much as I do on other bodies because the button is not easy to locate quickly. The FZ-2500 has less reach (480 vs. 600mm) and is 1/3 stop less light sensitive. The sensor and ISO rating are identical on paper. I have used the FZ-1000 (predecessor to the 2500) and found the build quality to be lighter than the Sony, which also has some degree of weather sealing that has kept out dust. So the extra cost for the Sony is probably justified.

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Jan 16, 2022 17:41:05   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
jcwall396 wrote:
I have held the Sony but haven't found the Panasonic yet. Having smaller hands than you, I don't think the smaller form factor will be an issue but I definitely want to "touch and feel" both cameras, look at the menu systems, and kick the tires a bit.


I own the Sony RX10III which I love. It takes great pictures and does everything most things that my Sony AR7IV can. I hear the IV is even better. I also own the Sony RX 100 VII which is a great pocket camera. I thought about buying the Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 but decided on the Sony despite the price difference. It still has the edge. If you want all of the capabilities of your SLR, go with the RX10IV. It is an amazing camera and overlooked by many. I love the camera for street photography. The camera is capable of shooting in burst and is good for action photography. I'll attach some pictures that I took at the 2021 US Open from the upper deck of Ash Stadium. The camera is not cheap, but you are getting a terrific lens and a more than capable camera for the price. The menus do take a bit of learning but you can customize the menu and buttons, so you'll rarely need to go into the menu.

The attached pictures were taken at night games. As noted, these pictures were taken from the upper deck. Good luck in your choice. It probably doesn't matter in your choice, but a couple of days ago I read that Panasonic was getting out of the camera business. I was sorry to hear the news. The more companies in the camera business the better it is for everyone. It keeps the price down and pushes innovation.











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Jan 16, 2022 18:01:49   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
RVAshooter wrote:
I use a Sony RX-10 iv when I want minimum weight while hiking but expect to need some telephoto reach. The results are very good compared to my usual full-frame cameras and their bulky lenses. The only issue I have with the RX-10 is with noise at 1600 ISO in deep shadows, and that can be fixed with Topaz Denoise. Also, I don't use back button focus as much as I do on other bodies because the button is not easy to locate quickly. The FZ-2500 has less reach (480 vs. 600mm) and is 1/3 stop less light sensitive. The sensor and ISO rating are identical on paper. I have used the FZ-1000 (predecessor to the 2500) and found the build quality to be lighter than the Sony, which also has some degree of weather sealing that has kept out dust. So the extra cost for the Sony is probably justified.
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Maybe you are underexposing. This was at ISO 6400, and the shadow noise doesn't detract. I just used the noise sliders in Capture One.


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Jan 16, 2022 18:03:38   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Bayou wrote:
Indeed. I briefly saw the FZ1000 and the Sony RX10 (iii?) at B&H a few years ago and was surprised how large they were. I'd love to have an RX10 IV, but for the cost I could get into full frame, so....I resist the gas!


The cost is considerably less than full frame after you factor in the 24-600 (equivalent) lens. Seriously, $1700 is a bargain.

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Jan 16, 2022 18:13:59   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
lreisner wrote:
I own the Sony RX10III which I love. It takes great pictures and does everything most things that my Sony AR7IV can. I hear the IV is even better. I also own the Sony RX 100 VII which is a great pocket camera. I thought about buying the Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 but decided on the Sony despite the price difference. It still has the edge. If you want all of the capabilities of your SLR, go with the RX10IV. It is an amazing camera and overlooked by many. I love the camera for street photography. The camera is capable of shooting in burst and is good for action photography. I'll attach some pictures that I took at the 2021 US Open from the upper deck of Ash Stadium. The camera is not cheap, but you are getting a terrific lens and a more than capable camera for the price. The menus do take a bit of learning but you can customize the menu and buttons, so you'll rarely need to go into the menu.

The attached pictures were taken at night games. As noted, these pictures were taken from the upper deck. Good luck in your choice. It probably doesn't matter in your choice, but a couple of days ago I read that Panasonic was getting out of the camera business. I was sorry to hear the news. The more companies in the camera business the better it is for everyone. It keeps the price down and pushes innovation.
I own the Sony RX10III which I love. It takes gre... (show quote)


WOW!!!!! Those photographs are off the charts awesome! I’m sold…..thanks so much for your response and for posting examples. I am floored at how clear those are from the upper deck. Wow….

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Jan 16, 2022 18:14:46   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Maybe you are underexposing. This was at ISO 6400, and the shadow noise doesn't detract. I just used the noise sliders in Capture One.


Excellent image and without pixel peeping, I don’t see any noise….

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Jan 17, 2022 01:08:59   #
ashriverguy Loc: Rural Minnesota
 
I have shot briefly with the Sony and it’s a fantastic camera although I have never owned one. I have owned the Panasonic FZ 1000 and returned it for the FZ 2500 and like it a lot and the Leica lens is excellent. I do use the pop up flash and I like the full articulating rear touch screen on the Panasonic but it’s not dust and water resistant like the Sony is. All in all, if the double cost isn’t an issue I’d go with the Sony. Another issue, the Sony has been around for some time, is it time for a new model Sony?? I’m waiting.

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