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Jan 10, 2022 13:56:18   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
johngault007 wrote:
And do you get a positive response to this? I mean I see other people taking photos and leave them to their own decisions.


Well I imagine if he’s running tours people attend to benefit from his knowledge and experience. It’s pretty much his job NOT to leave them to their own devices.

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Jan 10, 2022 13:57:41   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Kevin.M wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering what others are using besides a CPL to enhance your photography.

Besides water falls are there any other uses for a neutral density filter?

Have a safe and Happy New Year!

~Kevin


These days, CPL and ND filters are just about all one needs. Even now, "ND filters" are being electronically installed in cameras. The other filters are just as useful as they were in the film days but can be electronically done later in post processing.

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Jan 10, 2022 14:02:08   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Now shooting digital almost exclusively, by far my most used filters are CPL. There are numerous different uses for CPL and a lot of what they do is difficult or impossible to replicate in digital post-processing (unlike most other filters).

ND filters are useful for longer shutter speeds, which can be used to give motion blur to moving water (as illustrated quite well in several other responses).

That's not the only use for solid ND filters, though. Longer shutter speeds also can be useful to make traffic or even pedestrians "disappear" from city scenes and roadways. A moving vehicle or walking person will not be recorded in a long exposure made possible with a fairly strong ND filter. Other possible long exposure uses: fireworks, aurora borealis. Another common use for solid ND filters is to allow larger apertures in relatively bright conditions, as might be wanted for shallow depth of field effects. A very strong ND is necessary when viewing or shooting a solar eclipse.

Photographers shooting stills probably only need one or two or at most three ND filters for specific lenses that they use for some of the above purposes... Probably the single most useful would be a 6-stop. A good pairing maybe a 3-stop and 6-stop, which can be stacked for 9 stops. Some might prefer a 10-stop (especially with wide lenses where you can't stack filters). Filters used for solar eclipses are even stronger... some 15 or 16 stops!

Videographers, on the other hand, may need a wider variety of ND filters in order to fine tune exposure. That's because they have less exposure latitude to work with. The apertures are the same, but they have less adjustability with shutter speed and ISO may be limited as well.

For both photographers and videographers, the best quality is with fixed strength ND filters. But because they need a wider variety, videographers in particular might instead choose to use a Variable ND filter. However, those often compromise image quality. Plus even the lower quality ones tend to be rather expensive, while better ones tend to be extremely expensive.

I've stopped using Graduated ND filters. They're bulky to haul around, fussy to set up and use, easily damaged plastic or expensive/heavy/fragile glass, difficult to shade from sun, don't work all that well and simply aren't necessary with digital. With multi-shot or multi-processed images, plus layers and masks in post-processing I can do a better job of balancing scenes than was ever possible with Grad ND filters. I've still got a few Grad NDs, but have only kept them in case I shoot some film (in other words, those filters are largely just gathering dust).

I haven't used them a lot recently either, but have a handful of what I call "portrait" filters. Those are "black spot" or "black splatter" and "black mesh" filters that reduce fine detail to make some types of portraits "kinder" to their subjects. A couple of those are homemade... black mesh materials that I sandwiched between a couple filter rings without any glass in them. The "black spot/spatter" filters were bought that way. The filters with black are color neutral and are the only type I have now. There are also flesh colored and white, but they effect color and I've never been a fan of them. Some wedding photographers like the white spatter or white mesh filters for the somewhat "dreamy" effect they can make. There also are clear spatter, the weaker of which create sort of a glow while the stronger ones make for a more "foggy" looking image. Some of these filter effects can now be pretty easily done digitally in post-processing.

Another type of filter I still carry around but don't use very much are UV, which are primarily just for "protection" on the rare occasions when I find myself shooting in situations that might be risky for my lenses. I deliberately carry UV (instead of "clear" protection) because there are occasionally times a UV filter can be used to reduce bluish haze in scenic shots too. Digital doesn't require the original use of those filters with film, which was overly sensitive to UV light and would show pretty strong tints from it, particularly in images taken at higher altitudes where UV is more prevalent.

I have also kept some of the filters I used with black & white film, just in case I end up shooting some. But I don't use them to make digital B&W images.... only film. When I do B&W digitally I shoot in color, then convert to B&W in post-processing. The filter effects are easily applied to digitally generated B&W images, during the conversion process.

Instead of color correction and color conversion filters I used with film, I now carry a small set of "Warm Cards": https://www.vortexmediastore.com/pages/warmcards-white-balance-system. Those are used to set a custom white balance with a slight color bias. The set has several cards with different strength cyan tints, which cause a warmer image. They also include a couple with yellow tints used to make images cooler, as well as a greenish card that's used to help balance color better under fluorescent lighting. The last card in the set is pure white on one side and neutral 18% gray on the other, so either side can be used to set a custom white balance without any color bias, while the gray side also can be used to help dial in an accurate exposure. In the past when shooting film I instead used a variety of filters for these purposes. Now with digital the same can be accomplished even more accurately using a custom white balance.

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Jan 10, 2022 14:03:12   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Well I imagine if he’s running tours people attend to benefit from his knowledge and experience. It’s pretty much his job NOT to leave them to their own devices.


I was asking because I'm interested in how many show up with little or no knowledge of photography as opposed to those with a solid understanding of their equipment and photography. I could imagine the responses would vary greatly.

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Jan 10, 2022 14:06:25   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Kevin.M wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering what others are using besides a CPL to enhance your photography.

Besides water falls are there any other uses for a neutral density filter?

Have a safe and Happy New Year!

~Kevin


My 10 stop ND filter.

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Jan 10, 2022 14:35:20   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Occasionally I use a split field diopter, although not very often. Also graduated ND filters - usually for landscape photography when I don't have a tripod with me and thereby would have difficulty perfectly lining up two different exposure images in editing.

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Jan 10, 2022 15:00:16   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
Kevin.M wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering what others are using besides a CPL to enhance your photography.

Besides water falls are there any other uses for a neutral density filter?

Have a safe and Happy New Year!

~Kevin


As You said...beside a CPL, what else?...it happens 2 or 3 times a year, I screw an ND to slow down by 3 stops...just to get "beginning" creamy waves. But I will start very soon with IR in B/W, just to see what funny comes out!

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Jan 10, 2022 15:09:43   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
rmalarz wrote:
K2, X1, and 25A are my most used.
--Bob


Please, can you explain what effect /result each of those filters does bring in your pictures? Always interesting to learn new stuff.

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Jan 10, 2022 16:04:19   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Circular polarizer and Gradual ND.

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Jan 10, 2022 16:37:43   #
MrPhotog
 
Dan' de Bourgogne wrote:
Please, can you explain what effect /result each of those filters does bring in your pictures? Always interesting to learn new stuff.


You could google those filter names, but I’m going to suggest you search for them on the B&H website, or in their app. You miss the extra paid ads Google throws at you and get straight to an answer. Look at any of the products and you frequently get an explanation of their use, too.

To save you the bother though, here is my take:

K2 is a yellow filter. It blocks blue light, so on b&w film a deep blue sky goes darker and makes those puffy white clouds stand out. Normally, b&w film is a bit tilted towards being more sensitive to blue light and without this filter the sky would appear brighter, and almost as bright as those clouds.

X1 is a green filter. For b&w film It helps with skies almost as much as a yellow filter, and also favors greens, while slightly darkening reds in landscapes. Some people like it for portraits, but it can make a teen’s zits appear massive. And it is unflattering to use with people who have reddish blotchy skin, or red noses. Outdoors it kinda tames the excesses of panchromatic film and gives a very nice rendition of colors in appropriate gray tones.

25A is a really dark red filter which eliminates almost all other colors than red. It turns blue sky nearly black. Same for green leaves, lawns and foliage. A red berry on a green bush becomes a nearly white berry against a black ( dark gray) background. ( compare that to using a green filter which gives a dark berry against a light background—almost the opposite rendition!)

With infrared film it permits all the IR light to pass, but blocks other colors, adding to the IR effect.

Because it has such a narrow bandwidth, The 25A is one of three filters used for color separation. The other two filters would be a blue (47 or 47 A or 47 B) and green (59 or 61).

You can use this with color film, or digital color. You get a sparkling multi color effect on moving water with a triple exposure, taking one exposure through each of the color separation filters. Or, with three exposures on black and white film one through each filter) you can create a color image. The emulsion on color film has layers of a black and white sandwiched between dyed layers of gelatin which are the colors of these filters. In digital you can select these layers in your editing software, making yhe use of a red filter superfluous.

The numbers refer to designations used by the Wratten company, which made these filters, starting many years ago. Before that became a standard, people used letters, so a Wratten 25 would have been an ‘A’ filter, and we call it by both names now.

Hope this helps.

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Jan 10, 2022 17:34:34   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Kevin.M wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering what others are using besides a CPL to enhance your photography.

Besides water falls are there any other uses for a neutral density filter?

Have a safe and Happy New Year!

~Kevin


I rarely use effects filters on my lenses, but CPL and Graduated ND some times. I use the polarizer to cut glare on shiny non-metallic surfaces.

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Jan 10, 2022 17:44:37   #
rossk Loc: Melbourne, Australia
 
Black mist diffusion filters of varying strengths. I usually use either 1/8 or 1/4 strength. Nisi and Tiffen make great diffusion filters. I use one all the time on my Fujifilm x100v.

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Jan 10, 2022 17:57:54   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
For my landscapes I use ND filters a lot to extend exposure times and a CPL when needed.

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Jan 10, 2022 18:32:46   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
I use a polarizer when shooting long exposures on Lake Michigan. With an ND. The polarizer enables one to see through the turbulent water as it crashes on the rock shore.

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Jan 10, 2022 19:06:05   #
Kevin.M Loc: Forked River, NJ
 
In-lightened wrote:
Always enjoy your posts Thomas.
I am a big fan of 10 stop for water...and 6 stop. Apparently, how you like your water is a personal preference.
Sometimes I will use a polarizer for fall color when things are wet and too shiny and with most water scenes if not using a 6 or 10 stop.


Thanks for that info.

~Kevin

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