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Jan 7, 2022 14:20:50   #
plumbbob1
 
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" photo wraps on HP canvas wrap medium on a HP 500 printer. It seems to me that they fade faster than they should.

1, Is it normal for the prints to fades quickly. I begin to see a difference in a few months in indirect light.

2, Is there a further step to prepare prints to not fade?

3, Is there a way to enhance prints to retard fading?

4, Is there a special ink available that will work in my HP500 printer that would resist fading?

This is an actual issue for me. So, Thanks in advance.

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Jan 7, 2022 14:43:27   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
plumbbob1 wrote:
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" photo wraps on HP canvas wrap medium on a HP 500 printer. It seems to me that they fade faster than they should.

1, Is it normal for the prints to fades quickly. I begin to see a difference in a few months in indirect light.

2, Is there a further step to prepare prints to not fade?

3, Is there a way to enhance prints to retard fading?

4, Is there a special ink available that will work in my HP500 printer that would resist fading?

This is an actual issue for me. So, Thanks in advance.
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" ph... (show quote)


The problem is the dye ink in that printer, it's not archival and no one makes pigment inks that work with your printheads.
Looks like time to invest in a better printer. I have been using the HP Z5400 for almost 7 years now. Archival inks and atchival papers make for happy customers.

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Jan 7, 2022 14:54:22   #
plumbbob1
 
Thanks, problem is, competing against Walgreens and some of these other cheap print outfits makes it hard to toss working equipment. Although I know you are right.

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Jan 8, 2022 06:56:25   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
plumbbob1 wrote:
Thanks, the problem is, competing against Walgreens and some of these other cheap print outfits makes it hard to toss working equipment. Although I know you are right.


Are Walgreens prints dye-based? If they are, they too will fade. Making archival prints can justify the price difference. But you will need to educate your clients.

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Jan 8, 2022 10:30:05   #
plumbbob1
 
Client education is a good idea, even if if they are archival prints.

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Jan 8, 2022 11:07:44   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
The choices are:

1. use pigment based inks.
2. There are sprays that provide UV protection.
3. Place print behind UV absorbing glass.
4. Some commercial printers may use better inks. Walgreens is NOT the place.

I have prints that use both options 2 and 3 that are 20 years old and are just fine.

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Jan 8, 2022 11:28:16   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
Sources for the protective spray are:
https://www.itsupplies.com/PremierArt-Print-Shield-Inkjet-Protective-Spray-p/pa1950.htm
https://www.amazon.com/Hahnemuhle-Protective-Spray-Digital-Prints/dp/B0009MX2VS
https://www.dickblick.com/products/marshalls-print-guard-spray/

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Jan 8, 2022 12:01:19   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
plumbbob1 wrote:
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" photo wraps on HP canvas wrap medium on a HP 500 printer. It seems to me that they fade faster than they should.

1, Is it normal for the prints to fades quickly. I begin to see a difference in a few months in indirect light.

2, Is there a further step to prepare prints to not fade?

3, Is there a way to enhance prints to retard fading?

4, Is there a special ink available that will work in my HP500 printer that would resist fading?

This is an actual issue for me. So, Thanks in advance.
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" ph... (show quote)


Your printer uses dye based ink, which fade. If you are using third party ink, they will fade faster. The HP500 is not a photo printer. It is a 4 color general purpose printer.

1. Yes, they will fade.
2. Yes, replace your general purpose dye printer with a specialized photo printer that uses pigmented ink, use only archival materials, use a print varnish, etc.
3. Read #2
4. Yes, Read #2 - and be aware that your printer does not use pigmented ink.

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Jan 8, 2022 12:23:38   #
plumbbob1
 
Great suggestions. I'll try 2 & 3.

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Jan 8, 2022 16:48:54   #
User ID
 
plumbbob1 wrote:
Thanks, problem is, competing against Walgreens and some of these other cheap print outfits makes it hard to toss working equipment. Although I know you are right.

You’ve nailed it right there.

But you need some perspective. Printers are not expensive. Buy a new camera and when you open the box the depreciation occurring in that moment is more $$ than the $value of the used printer that you hesitate to discard.

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Jan 8, 2022 23:34:09   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
plumbbob1 wrote:
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" photo wraps on HP canvas wrap medium on a HP 500 printer. It seems to me that they fade faster than they should.

1, Is it normal for the prints to fades quickly. I begin to see a difference in a few months in indirect light.

2, Is there a further step to prepare prints to not fade?

3, Is there a way to enhance prints to retard fading?

4, Is there a special ink available that will work in my HP500 printer that would resist fading?

This is an actual issue for me. So, Thanks in advance.
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" ph... (show quote)


I use a Canon IPF 8300 and a Canon pro4000 both pigmented inks and 12 colors and print Large canvases and they do not fade . They are 44 inch wide printers ..100 year life expectancy and more .I properly seal them with 2 heavy sprayed coats of Liquitex professional Archival; Permanent; Non-Removable; Satin Gloss finish
Lightweight, non-toxic; Dries to a non-tacky, hard, flexible surface; Non-yellowing and water-resistant when dry . It comes in 32 oz and 1 gal containers . In is not removable therefore not Museum grade . They make a removable grade called Liquitex Soluvar Gloss Final Varnish it is solvent based . The one I use is acrylic based and drys quickly .I buy these from Dick Blick .

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Jan 9, 2022 09:22:40   #
plumbbob1
 
Thanks, that's a lot of good info.

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Jan 9, 2022 12:37:10   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
plumbbob1 wrote:
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" photo wraps on HP canvas wrap medium on a HP 500 printer. It seems to me that they fade faster than they should.

1, Is it normal for the prints to fades quickly. I begin to see a difference in a few months in indirect light.

2, Is there a further step to prepare prints to not fade?

3, Is there a way to enhance prints to retard fading?

4, Is there a special ink available that will work in my HP500 printer that would resist fading?

This is an actual issue for me. So, Thanks in advance.
My turn; I have been printing 24"x36" ph... (show quote)


I have found paper to also be an issue. I printed on some old cheap paper and some good Red River paper and the cheap paper faded in a few months. Red River still going strong. Maybe your paper is not helping also.

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Jan 9, 2022 15:41:56   #
plumbbob1
 
That make sense.

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