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Jan 6, 2022 11:20:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
There's snow in the forecast for tomorrow, so I put the snow tires on my son's car. If you have directional snow tires, like Michelin X-Ice, be sure to put them on the proper side of the car. There's an arrow indicating direction of rotation. Another consideration is using something like Never Seize. I apply it to the wheel/hub mating surfaces and also to the wheel studs. It's not uncommon for both of these to get rusted in place.

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Jan 6, 2022 11:21:45   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Thanks, but I'm in FL...😀

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Jan 6, 2022 11:36:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Toment wrote:
Thanks, but I'm in FL...😀


And you're living dangerously, using regular tires in the snow. I understand.

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Jan 6, 2022 12:00:13   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There's snow in the forecast for tomorrow, so I put the snow tires on my son's car. If you have directional snow tires, like Michelin X-Ice, be sure to put them on the proper side of the car. There's an arrow indicating direction of rotation. Another consideration is using something like Never Seize. I apply it to the wheel/hub mating surfaces and also to the wheel studs. It's not uncommon for both of these to get rusted in place.


I appreciate that information, Jerry!! I have to look back to 1996 to remember snow tires. 25 years later, we live in a condo community (55+)with underground parking. Of course I miss the houses we occupied. In 96' we had 19 significant snow storms in NJ. So much snow, we had to shovel it way above our heads to pile it on either side of our driveway. I had to use heavy ice pick shovel to clear a path to the roadway. I was teaching in Chatham, NJ, about a 15 mile ride. We had so many snow days, we made up one day on a Saturday. The NJ Dept of Education came and monitored the day to make sure students were receiving proper instruction. They were amazed because it was "business as usual" in Chatham!!

Snow Tires??? Rotation?? No thanks! I'll watch the storm out the window.
Mark

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Jan 6, 2022 12:41:49   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Never Seize is good stuff. Also excellent for cylinder head bolts for smooth torquing.

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Jan 6, 2022 13:11:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
TriX wrote:
Never Seize is good stuff. Also excellent for cylinder head bolts for smooth torquing.


The only problem is when it gets down to the bottom of the bottle. The brush is too short.


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Jan 6, 2022 15:45:27   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
A lot of years ago I lived in Grand Forks ND, snow & ice country, back then we had studded tires and I put them on front and back. Studs on the front for steering and braking and studs on the rear so I could go. I didn't see many cars with studs all the way around. I did it for a lot of years.

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Jan 7, 2022 00:06:41   #
Tom467 Loc: North Central Florida
 
Jerry, in Florida we had a foot of sunshine today and expect the same tomorrow.

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Jan 7, 2022 05:45:58   #
DAN Phillips Loc: Graysville, GA
 
I lived in Rockford, IL, had Oldsmobile big station wagon, never used snow tires. No need, to wagon went wherever I wanted to go. It's too bad they don't make real cars anymore!

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Jan 7, 2022 06:44:33   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There's snow in the forecast for tomorrow, so I put the snow tires on my son's car. If you have directional snow tires, like Michelin X-Ice, be sure to put them on the proper side of the car. There's an arrow indicating direction of rotation. Another consideration is using something like Never Seize. I apply it to the wheel/hub mating surfaces and also to the wheel studs. It's not uncommon for both of these to get rusted in place.


Never- seize is a fantastic product, when properly used:
I has been and still is stated : Wheel lug nuts be installed dry!!! and torqued to specific torque. e.i. the torque on my 2018 Grand Caravan is 105-110 ft.lbs. Dry!!
While in my 60+ years of being a mechanic I have seen people use Never Seize on wheel studs I have never seen or heard of any coming loose. But I DON'T use it on wheel studs.

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Jan 7, 2022 07:28:06   #
Mustanger Loc: Grants Pass, Oregon USA
 
Tom467 wrote:
Jerry, in Florida we had a foot of sunshine today and expect the same tomorrow.



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Jan 7, 2022 07:45:39   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
back in 1975 we returned from Germany to fort Wayne with a 1970 Jaguar ETYPE which was my daily driver winter string, summer and fall. The car was equipped with Michelin tires rated at 160MPH with no mention of snow traction.
I drove the car to school and then work at IHC, Magnavox for about 10 years until we bought another vehicle which was a full size van. Never once did I put snow tires on them. I drove the ETYPE through snow deep enough the mufflers were leaving tracks in the snow.

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Jan 7, 2022 07:55:44   #
AtomicZ Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Be careful when using Never-seize, very goo product when properly used, but it does change the torque specks when used.

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Jan 7, 2022 08:10:53   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There's snow in the forecast for tomorrow, so I put the snow tires on my son's car. If you have directional snow tires, like Michelin X-Ice, be sure to put them on the proper side of the car. There's an arrow indicating direction of rotation. Another consideration is using something like Never Seize. I apply it to the wheel/hub mating surfaces and also to the wheel studs. It's not uncommon for both of these to get rusted in place.


I went out and shoveled, was thinking of going and shooting some snow scenes, decided that by the time I cleaned the car I'd be too tired to try, staying in and warm, Bob.

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Jan 7, 2022 08:54:54   #
rustfarmer
 
For cylinder heads one must be careful about torque specs. Some are specifically listed as "with threads oiled". Some cars have bolts that must be installed with RTV or gasket shellac because they go into the water jacket. Some shop manuals caution that if anti-seize is used torque values must be reduced by a certain amount and ARP head bolts also come with detailed instructions about what lube to use and how this affects torque values. Good wrenching!

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