sourdough58 Loc: Maine

Do your own Research
Ivermectin in Japan https://youtu.be/E1GF0H9V_1g
Home ivermectin based kits in India https://youtu.be/eO9cjy3Rydc
Vitamin D levels advised https://youtu.be/V5g9AVqRsjo
What Percent Of CDC Employees Are Vaccinated?': Cassidy Grills Walensky At Senate Hearing https://youtu.be/QabAtYBnqro

bobfitz Loc: Kendall-Miami, Florida

You nailed it!!! "None are so blind as those who will not see."

diny

You are so right "old coot"!!! now if the rest of the world would get behind you!!!! ;)

Ruthlessrider

I wasn’t suggesting any fault on your part so there is no reason to feel like I was faulting you one way or another. I was just correcting you statement indicating that somehow vaccines caused mutations. Mutation happen naturally in any biological organism. The reason they seem more prevalent in viruses is because of their very short generational lifespans. Additionally, your getting vaccinated does have an impact on others. The more people vaccinated the fewer number of hosts (people who are vaccinated) and the fewer host the less replication of the virus.

Tote1940 Loc: Dallas

Both are a problem
Delta still killing but so much Omicron that Health care overwhelmed
Death is death, sure percenta are pretty low but multiplied by over 1 million cases a day a lot of suffering and deaths.
To each family that death or person in ICU is a horrendous pain
Tragedy is that we have strong defenses and over half of population refuses to use them
Vaccines are among safest and most effective ever developed, N95 masks are now easily available, no need to use sub effective mask
Giving each other space or social distancing easy and cheap
We could stop it in our country if we tried
Until then much death and suffering

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

You need a new TV.

If you want info about Covid and omicron -

https://www.youtube.com/c/Campbellteaching

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I agree. I still see people with cloth bandanas over their faces. If it isn't designed as a medical mask, it won't work as one.

Yes, we could have stopped this a year ago, but people value freedom more than life.

This is a contagious disease. How do we avoid it? We stay away from people.

The more serious infection is stupidity.

DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan

Nugget, my 5 year old Downs granddaughter has been vaccinated for COVID and the flu with no problems or crying; however, she did tell the nurse a thing or two as they were leaving. BUT she is vaccinated!

DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan

I put a blue paper shop towel inside my cloth mask (it has a pocket) A doctor told me it's the next best thing to an N95 mask.

KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego

Actually, getting vaccinated does help other people. It is common knowledge now that although it won't necessarily stop you from getting covid, it can make the symptoms much less severe, and in most cases hospital admission is not necessary. This means that hospitals are less likely to be overwhelmed, and therefore have the ability to treat patients with severe covid symptoms, or any other illness that they may be suffering from. We all remember not so long ago, hospitals treating patients in parking lots, and not having enough spare beds either for ICU, or for regular admission. Now there is less pressure on them. So your statement, "My getting vaccinated is not going to help anyone else in anyway", is in fact wrong! Anyway, it still is a personal choice, as it should be, so whatever your choice is, stay safe and have a great day.

gener202002

Well, I meant no harm either. I just simply disagree with you on the way things work. I know there are a lot of people out there who see things your way. I simply say it is incorrect. Vaccines do not help anybodfy except the person who takes them. No one. And viruses mutate as they need to to survive. That is just nature's way. I am not trying to be argumentative. There are certainly a lot of people who see it your way, and as I said in the original post, I am not trying to take sides. Just stating arguments as they can appear on both sides. Sorry if I sounded argumentative or such. I am just trying to present both sides of this argument. People need to be allowed to take their own approach on this. That is the whole point.

bobfitz Loc: Kendall-Miami, Florida

I have had three friends die within days of vaccination. I have also had another 2 suffer strokes. This is not coincidence.

DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan

Sorry, but you wrong. Right now my wife and I, my daughter and granddaughter are all under quarnteen because my granddaughter's unvaccinated boss has come down with COVID. In addition to the possibility of her passing it on to the 4 of us there's the loss of a weeks wages for my daughter and granddaughter. Normially I don't care what other people do about health issuse, but when it effects my family and other people I care about... well I guess I care about your welfare about as much as you people care about mine. I'm a Darwinist so I'm hoping he was right. If you get infected, stay home.

gener202002

Thank you for sharing, but no, I am not wrong. The fact that the boss was unvaccinated does not prove anything in any direction. As for me I am a recluse, so I stay home anyway. And as much as possible I order items rather than going to the store. And if I get it, yes, I will stay home. But if I get it it will be because my dna allowed it, not due to some unvaccinated person. One third of the people getting the virus have had the vaccine. Whether it works or not depends a lot on the dna of the people involved, and the state of their overall health.

But hey, I don't mean to be argumentative here, I do care about what happened to your family and I wish you the best outcome. I want that to be the main theme here. I am quite old so I won't live too much longer anyway, which is just fine with me. I have had a long and very happy life. But again, I want to show my empathy for you and your family. That is the main thing. I do care. It is a little presumptive though to insist that the covid came from the unvaccinated boss. While that is certainly a possibility, it is not guaranteed that is where it came from.

When the virus came out, one of my neighbor's whom I talked with quite often, as did others here, came down with it and passed away. His wife has never shown any symptoms. Neither have any of the people who were talking to him on a regular basis. Things often don't work the way we think we do, and a lot more depends on the nature of our dna, our state of overall health, and other intangibles. I have never had the flu of any kind, and have almost never been sick in my life. That doesn't mean it can't happen though.

What I am saying is there are intangibles that are not known. And I am saying that people have to make their own choices. Many people have died from the vaccination, not the disease. Their entire body shakes uncontrollably until they die. Why do some die from it and some not? Who knows? So it is best not to make any judgments about how and why it happened. The fact is, we do not know.

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

We hit that mark long ago!