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Jan 1, 2022 09:51:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I bought 2 6T hard drives from
B AND H FOR 130 each


What make and model?

I was considering buying a replacement for one I installed yesterday, but the choices and the reviews are overwhelming. I realize I've bought thirteen HGST "renewed" drives over the years, and this is the first one to give me a warning through CrystalDiskInfo - not a failure, just a warning. I'm talking about a 4TB HGST Ultrastar enterprise drive for $60.

https://smile.amazon.com/HGST-Ultrastar-7200RPM-Internal-Surveillance/dp/B0856WZT3B/ref=sxts_b2b_sx_reorder_v3_customer?crid=3W4HJ377D3R69&cv_ct_cx=hgst&keywords=hgst&pd_rd_i=B0856WZT3B&pd_rd_r=01bfe75e-9d6f-4163-8c8c-7cd5319389a4&pd_rd_w=YnATD&pd_rd_wg=c2rVI&pf_rd_p=957bd7e3-74ac-4a2b-82e1-84ce13da595b&pf_rd_r=76E4T9ZJEQY1H6WVCXS3&qid=1641048640&sprefix=hgst%2Caps%2C109&sr=1-1-722db4e4-77fc-4fb6-8cee-654ad16ce1d5

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Jan 1, 2022 12:06:16   #
cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX
 
TriX wrote:
And that is the problem with trusting your data to small, non- enterprise storage companies. If it’s a RAID, even though they may call it by a standard RAID level (0,1,5…), the actual way the data is laid down on disk is not necessarily readable by another RAID controller except maybe for RAID 1 (simple mirroring). And a NAS is worse. Why? Because with a NAS, it owns the file system, which to save licensing costs, is usually a proprietary, small company created product. Now since the file system is just behind the OS in terms of importance, do you really want to trust your data to a company that just has a few SW engineers? They may be brilliant SW designers, but they don’t have the resources (or $) to do the kind of testing and QA of a Microsoft. Personally, if I couldn’t afford enterprise class storage from NetApp, EMC/Dell, etc., I’d buy a JBOD (just a bunch of drives) enclosure from a reputable company, and let Windows/NTFS or MacOS create the RAID groups or act as a NAS server (both have that capacity built into the OS). You can bet the file system will be well tested and stable and that the data on disk can be read by any Windows or Mac computer. And whatever you do, keep a DR (disaster recovery) copy of your data off-site, and test your local backup system (backup is easy, recovery is where the potential pain resides).

Just my opinion(s) as usual.
And that is the problem with trusting your data to... (show quote)


Tri-x. As someone who does a number of focus stacks with high megapixel cameras, I have accumulated a substantial amount of data in my library. Presently it is 38TB. I now use a 3 Drobo backup, each of which is a complete copy. One Drobo remains disconnected at all times. PreCovid, I used to keep a Drobo offsite that would get updated once a month, but that became impossible, so one Drobo remains unconnected at all times.

I am going to migrate way from Drobo for several reasons including the proprietary nature of their storage and lack of corporate activity. As an interim step, I could buy a 5 bay enclosure. I have sufficient 8TB enterprise drives to make a backup. That would be one more on-site backup.

Long term, however, I am thinking about cloud storage, but am concerned about the high cost and also my snail - like upload speed. Do you have any suggestions?

Irwin

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Jan 1, 2022 17:10:03   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
jerryc41 wrote:
What make and model?

I was considering buying a replacement for one I installed yesterday, but the choices and the reviews are overwhelming. I realize I've bought thirteen HGST "renewed" drives over the years, and this is the first one to give me a warning through CrystalDiskInfo - not a failure, just a warning. I'm talking about a 4TB HGST Ultrastar enterprise drive for $60.

https://smile.amazon.com/HGST-Ultrastar-7200RPM-Internal-Surveillance/dp/B0856WZT3B/ref=sxts_b2b_sx_reorder_v3_customer?crid=3W4HJ377D3R69&cv_ct_cx=hgst&keywords=hgst&pd_rd_i=B0856WZT3B&pd_rd_r=01bfe75e-9d6f-4163-8c8c-7cd5319389a4&pd_rd_w=YnATD&pd_rd_wg=c2rVI&pf_rd_p=957bd7e3-74ac-4a2b-82e1-84ce13da595b&pf_rd_r=76E4T9ZJEQY1H6WVCXS3&qid=1641048640&sprefix=hgst%2Caps%2C109&sr=1-1-722db4e4-77fc-4fb6-8cee-654ad16ce1d5
What make and model? br br I was considering buyi... (show quote)

WD 6 T MY BOOK

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Jan 2, 2022 09:37:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
WD 6 T MY BOOK


I prefer to buy the drive itself. That black box might look nice, but what's inside?

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Jan 2, 2022 10:43:46   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I prefer to buy the drive itself. That black box might look nice, but what's inside?


For $130 for a 6 T drive don't know how much you save by buying a drive and separate enclosure. Send links as I like to save money too

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Jan 2, 2022 10:47:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
For $130 for a 6 T drive don't know how much you save by buying a drive and separate enclosure. Send links as I like to save money too


Do you know what "color" drive is inside that case? I've been buying HGST 4TB drives (renewed) - thirteen so far. They usually go inside a computer, but I also use them for external backups.

https://smile.amazon.com/HGST-Ultrastar-7200RPM-Internal-Surveillance/dp/B0856WZT3B/ref=sxts_b2b_sx_reorder_v3_customer?crid=3W4HJ377D3R69&cv_ct_cx=hgst&keywords=hgst&pd_rd_i=B0856WZT3B&pd_rd_r=01bfe75e-9d6f-4163-8c8c-7cd5319389a4&pd_rd_w=YnATD&pd_rd_wg=c2rVI&pf_rd_p=957bd7e3-74ac-4a2b-82e1-84ce13da595b&pf_rd_r=76E4T9ZJEQY1H6WVCXS3&qid=1641048640&sprefix=hgst%2Caps%2C109&sr=1-1-722db4e4-77fc-4fb6-8cee-654ad16ce1d5

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