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Dec 28, 2021 09:23:29   #
Bison Bud
 
With all the buzz lately about electric cars and trying to eliminate the internal combustion engine in hopes of controlling c*****e c****e, lowering our carbon footprint, etc., it seems to me that we have pretty much ignored another major factor and that is all the jet fuel being consumed daily, especially at high altitude. Not only do these aircraft literally consume tons of f****l f**l on a single flight, much of their exhaust is dumped into probably the most fragile part of our atmosphere. Multiply that by the number of daily flights worldwide and this has to be something that really needs to be considered if we really think we can control or reverse c*****e c****e and yet we never hear much of anything about it even being a pollution issue.

Anyway, I doubt that we will ever be able to develop electric jet engines (but what do I know) and this issue is just getting bigger by the day and that isn't going to change anytime soon. While I am all for trying to control pollution where reasonably possible, I do have to question why this isn't a bigger issue than it seems to currently be. Any comments?

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Dec 28, 2021 09:36:11   #
Jim70 Loc: Delaware
 
It's not a bigger issue because all the people bloviating about c*****e c****e fly to their conferences and demonstrations.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:39:22   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Bison Bud wrote:
With all the buzz lately about electric cars and trying to eliminate the internal combustion engine in hopes of controlling c*****e c****e, lowering our carbon footprint, etc., it seems to me that we have pretty much ignored another major factor and that is all the jet fuel being consumed daily, especially at high altitude. Not only do these aircraft literally consume tons of f****l f**l on a single flight, much of their exhaust is dumped into probably the most fragile part of our atmosphere. Multiply that by the number of daily flights worldwide and this has to be something that really needs to be considered if we really think we can control or reverse c*****e c****e and yet we never hear much of anything about it even being a pollution issue.

Anyway, I doubt that we will ever be able to develop electric jet engines (but what do I know) and this issue is just getting bigger by the day and that isn't going to change anytime soon. While I am all for trying to control pollution where reasonably possible, I do have to question why this isn't a bigger issue than it seems to currently be. Any comments?
With all the buzz lately about electric cars and t... (show quote)


There has always been c*****e c****e.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:41:07   #
mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD
 
Jim70 wrote:
It's not a bigger issue because all the people bloviating about c*****e c****e fly to their conferences and demonstrations.



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Dec 28, 2021 09:44:28   #
mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD
 
I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when Leo DiCaprio gives up his private jets. I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when Obama sells his beachfront property. I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when all the world leaders stop flying their private jets to the latest c*****e c****e summit. WTF? They never heard of Zoom?

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Dec 28, 2021 09:44:40   #
kerry12 Loc: Harrisburg, Pa.
 
Jim70 wrote:
It's not a bigger issue because all the people bloviating about c*****e c****e fly to their conferences and demonstrations.


Exactly. The elites need there comforts. By the way. The climate has been changing since the beginning and always will.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:47:22   #
Ollieboy
 
πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ to all the posters exposing the hypocrisy.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:49:45   #
FrumCA
 
mflowe wrote:
I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when Leo DiCaprio gives up his private jets. I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when Obama sells his beachfront property. I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when all the world leaders stop flying their private jets to the latest c*****e c****e summit. WTF? They never heard of Zoom?



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Dec 28, 2021 10:02:49   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
leftj wrote:
There has always been c*****e c****e.


There has not always been c*****e c****e on a global scale caused by human activity.

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Dec 28, 2021 10:07:27   #
mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD
 
Ysarex wrote:
There has not always been c*****e c****e on a global scale caused by human activity.


So?

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Dec 28, 2021 10:12:02   #
odujim Loc: New Jersey
 
mflowe wrote:
I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when Leo DiCaprio gives up his private jets. I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when Obama sells his beachfront property. I'll start worrying about c*****e c****e when all the world leaders stop flying their private jets to the latest c*****e c****e summit. WTF? They never heard of Zoom?



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Dec 28, 2021 10:16:46   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Bison Bud wrote:
With all the buzz lately about electric cars and trying to eliminate the internal combustion engine in hopes of controlling c*****e c****e, lowering our carbon footprint, etc., it seems to me that we have pretty much ignored another major factor and that is all the jet fuel being consumed daily, especially at high altitude. Not only do these aircraft literally consume tons of f****l f**l on a single flight, much of their exhaust is dumped into probably the most fragile part of our atmosphere. Multiply that by the number of daily flights worldwide and this has to be something that really needs to be considered if we really think we can control or reverse c*****e c****e and yet we never hear much of anything about it even being a pollution issue.

Anyway, I doubt that we will ever be able to develop electric jet engines (but what do I know) and this issue is just getting bigger by the day and that isn't going to change anytime soon. While I am all for trying to control pollution where reasonably possible, I do have to question why this isn't a bigger issue than it seems to currently be. Any comments?
With all the buzz lately about electric cars and t... (show quote)


Aside from that, where do you think the electricity comes from for recharging all those batteries in the EV vehicles?

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Dec 28, 2021 10:20:09   #
dugeeeeeee
 
I find it funny all the electric cars with batteries charged using coal fired electric plants. Also the term β€œg***n e****y” is ridiculous coal is a rock that burns and makes heat. Oil comes from the earth. They are both natural energy. Plastic too comes from the earth. It’s not like we are importing it from space and even if we were it would still be natural.

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Dec 28, 2021 10:23:35   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
One of the largest...yep, the largest, polluters of many facets of the environment are "Cruise Ships" and we will hear very little about them. Studies have revealed that a single cruise ship emits as much carbon as ONE MILLION automobiles PER DAY. Although the "big three" have their headquarters in America, they fly their f**gs from either Panama or the Bahamas which makes them exempt from most American laws in international waters....and of course from paying taxes on par with American businesses.

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Dec 28, 2021 10:27:41   #
Bison Bud
 
leftj wrote:
There has always been c*****e c****e.


I agree with that statement wholeheartedly and it's a scientific fact that the climate is indeed changing. However, I have always doubted that we are the primary cause! I do believe that we contribute to it to some degree, but how much is us and how much is something else? I also have serious doubts that we have the actual ability to change it to a measurable degree and my purpose here was more to point out the hypocrisy of the "Green New Deal" zealots out there. In their eyes, we are the primary, if not only cause of c*****e c****e and we all need to drive electric cars to save the world, yet jet aircraft burning tons of f****l f**l are not even considered to be an issue. I find that to be quite a paradox to say the least!

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