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Dec 28, 2021 08:33:46   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
No, not a Nikon bashing post:) I loved my Nikons. 2.5 years ago, I decided I wanted to go mirrorless and had someone offer to buy my D850 and 200-500 lens. I sold them and bought the Z7. For 2.5 years I had sellers remorse, as there were just things I did effortlessly with the combo I sold and could not do with the Z7. Now - part of the reason I sold it is because it was getting very heavy and as I get older, my darned body is breaking down. Sore shoulder and muscles after a few miles hike with that kit left me wanting for a lighter, yet effective kit.

For landscape, the Z7 is more than adequate and the firmware updates did help it quite a bit over the past few years; however, I was still left with no real solution to wildlife. I have a friend that shoots exclusively Olympus, so I bought into the little Olympus kit which is quite remarkable, though the dynamic range isn't what I'm used to. It tied me over through the last two years with its 300F4 ($$$$) lens. It's the go to when I just can't push the arm too much.

Still I was left wanting. GAS set in. I fought it off mightily, buying vintage lenses (got into a really nice Carl Zeiss 17 blade 58/2 from 1949 in pristine condition - but I digress). The vintage lens fix was but a smoke screen.... I couldn't deny what was going to happen, so I began looking.

Considered Sony for a very short time (didn't need the a1 and the a7RIV wasn't for me). After receiving MUCH flack from my Nikon shooting friends, I traded all my Nikon gear in and came home with a Canon R5, RF 24-105 F4, and an RF 100-500 4.5 - 7.1. I've heard people say the R5 will change the way you shoot- don't know about that....BUT.... I do have a few wonderful handheld 5 second shots which previously I could only get from the Olympus.

If I had one disappointment in the R5.... it's in the manual focusing for non cpu lenses. Nikon and Olympus allow you to enter multiple manual/non-cpu lenses into a list, whereas you may select one of these when you place said lens on the camera. Canon, with its plethora of options and goodies, fails to do this and it shocks me. I'm stunned - stymied even. So if I'm shooting with the Carl Zeiss 58/2, I can enter into the IS menu, this lens and its focal length so the IBIS knows what focal length it is wriggling for. Say, I take off this lens and put the Pentacon 135/2.8 on. I can't just select it from a nice list I made of vintage lenses. I have to enter these values manually every time I switch from one to the other. Bollox, I say.

Wait, there's one more... so tiny, really, but I would like to see it:) When shooting with an RF lens, I can switch the lens to manual and I get the focus aid (three little triangles that line up and turn green when in focus). This is absolutely amazing and all manufacturers should do this. I was so excited until I put my vintage lens on and that feature doesn't work:( So I use focus peaking, which is what I use on the Olympus and Z7. Not the end of the world, but man..... that would be the cats meow for vintage lens shooting. I want that. I want it for the vintage lenses:)

So anyway, thanks for listening. I never thought I'd be a Canon shooter, but here I am, loving the R5 and having no buyers remorse.

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Dec 28, 2021 08:37:37   #
BebuLamar
 
How much did you get for your Z7?

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Dec 28, 2021 08:38:25   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Hooray!

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Dec 28, 2021 08:40:15   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
1200. He was a little scuffed up at the handle. Did I take a loss? You bet I did. On everything, LOL.

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Dec 28, 2021 08:41:38   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Hooray!


Maybe I'll bump into you the next time I in Chicago, never know!

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Dec 28, 2021 08:42:01   #
ELNikkor
 
Good for you! Those new Canons are awesome!

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Dec 28, 2021 08:42:53   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
murphle wrote:
If I had one disappointment in the R5.... it's in the manual focusing for non cpu lenses. Nikon and Olympus allow you to enter multiple manual/non-cpu lenses into a list, whereas you may select one of these when you place said lens on the camera. Canon, with its plethora of options and goodies, fails to do this and it shocks me. I'm stunned - stymied even. So if I'm shooting with the Carl Zeiss 58/2, I can enter into the IS menu, this lens and its focal length so the IBIS knows what focal length it is wriggling for. Say, I take off this lens and put the Pentacon 135/2.8 on. I can't just select it from a nice list I made of vintage lenses. I have to enter these values manually every time I switch from one to the other. Bollox, I say.
If I had one disappointment in the R5.... it's in ... (show quote)


For this feature of creating a list of preferred focal lengths, my Sony a7II doesn't have this feature either and I shoot only manual focus FD lenses on that body. Maybe Canon will enable such a feature via a firmware update? In the meantime, can you add the IS change to a personal menu option, the best that I can do on the Sony.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:10:57   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
You know, we are all different. Perhaps what is not enough dynamic range for you it is for me because I never had an issue in that respect with my Olympus bodies. I have used Nikon cameras and lenses for over 60 years and I keep all that gear that I bought in years past.
I have never used Canon, Sony or any other mirrorless cameras except for Olympus. As you have seen their AF is not the best for wildlife photography although I ignore how good the AF of the OM-1X could be. I have heard that something similar happens to the Nikon Z7, that it is not a reliable camera when it comes to AF for action or wildlife.

If you have found heaven in your Canon camera good for you, we should use what pleases us and what satisfies our photographic needs.
Happy New Year.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:19:40   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
For this feature of creating a list of preferred focal lengths, my Sony a7II doesn't have this feature either and I shoot only manual focus FD lenses on that body. Maybe Canon will enable such a feature via a firmware update? In the meantime, can you add the IS change to a personal menu option, the best that I can do on the Sony.


Yep, I have it on the MyMenu thing. It's not like I'm going to switching back and forth when I'm out. If I take a vintage with me, I take one. But still, it's a wonderful feature and they need it IMO.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:25:39   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
camerapapi wrote:
You know, we are all different. Perhaps what is not enough dynamic range for you it is for me because I never had an issue in that respect with my Olympus bodies. I have used Nikon cameras and lenses for over 60 years and I keep all that gear that I bought in years past.
I have never used Canon, Sony or any other mirrorless cameras except for Olympus. As you have seen their AF is not the best for wildlife photography although I ignore how good the AF of the OM-1X could be. I have heard that something similar happens to the Nikon Z7, that it is not a reliable camera when it comes to AF for action or wildlife.

If you have found heaven in your Canon camera good for you, we should use what pleases us and what satisfies our photographic needs.
Happy New Year.
You know, we are all different. Perhaps what is no... (show quote)


Happy New Year! I didn't say I've found heaven, I'm merely pleased with my purchase. I'm happily stepping outside the box so I can speak with an educated opinion towards all three mfgs. I still have my Olympus M1 Mkiii and all the lenses. It's not going anywhere - I do push the system and understand its weak points, so I avoid them or deal with them. In the end.... they are just the tools I use and I've loved each one in its own way.

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Dec 28, 2021 09:28:36   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Good for you! Those new Canons are awesome!


They did a nice job. I wasn't aware how well they'd done until I drove it.

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Dec 28, 2021 10:46:09   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
murphle wrote:
No, not a Nikon bashing post:) I loved my Nikons. 2.5 years ago, I decided I wanted to go mirrorless and had someone offer to buy my D850 and 200-500 lens. I sold them and bought the Z7. For 2.5 years I had sellers remorse, as there were just things I did effortlessly with the combo I sold and could not do with the Z7. Now - part of the reason I sold it is because it was getting very heavy and as I get older, my darned body is breaking down. Sore shoulder and muscles after a few miles hike with that kit left me wanting for a lighter, yet effective kit.

For landscape, the Z7 is more than adequate and the firmware updates did help it quite a bit over the past few years; however, I was still left with no real solution to wildlife. I have a friend that shoots exclusively Olympus, so I bought into the little Olympus kit which is quite remarkable, though the dynamic range isn't what I'm used to. It tied me over through the last two years with its 300F4 ($$$$) lens. It's the go to when I just can't push the arm too much.

Still I was left wanting. GAS set in. I fought it off mightily, buying vintage lenses (got into a really nice Carl Zeiss 17 blade 58/2 from 1949 in pristine condition - but I digress). The vintage lens fix was but a smoke screen.... I couldn't deny what was going to happen, so I began looking.

Considered Sony for a very short time (didn't need the a1 and the a7RIV wasn't for me). After receiving MUCH flack from my Nikon shooting friends, I traded all my Nikon gear in and came home with a Canon R5, RF 24-105 F4, and an RF 100-500 4.5 - 7.1. I've heard people say the R5 will change the way you shoot- don't know about that....BUT.... I do have a few wonderful handheld 5 second shots which previously I could only get from the Olympus.

If I had one disappointment in the R5.... it's in the manual focusing for non cpu lenses. Nikon and Olympus allow you to enter multiple manual/non-cpu lenses into a list, whereas you may select one of these when you place said lens on the camera. Canon, with its plethora of options and goodies, fails to do this and it shocks me. I'm stunned - stymied even. So if I'm shooting with the Carl Zeiss 58/2, I can enter into the IS menu, this lens and its focal length so the IBIS knows what focal length it is wriggling for. Say, I take off this lens and put the Pentacon 135/2.8 on. I can't just select it from a nice list I made of vintage lenses. I have to enter these values manually every time I switch from one to the other. Bollox, I say.

Wait, there's one more... so tiny, really, but I would like to see it:) When shooting with an RF lens, I can switch the lens to manual and I get the focus aid (three little triangles that line up and turn green when in focus). This is absolutely amazing and all manufacturers should do this. I was so excited until I put my vintage lens on and that feature doesn't work:( So I use focus peaking, which is what I use on the Olympus and Z7. Not the end of the world, but man..... that would be the cats meow for vintage lens shooting. I want that. I want it for the vintage lenses:)

So anyway, thanks for listening. I never thought I'd be a Canon shooter, but here I am, loving the R5 and having no buyers remorse.
No, not a Nikon bashing post:) I loved my Nikons. ... (show quote)


Are you selling your Nikon gear?

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Dec 28, 2021 10:56:10   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
JD750 wrote:
Are you selling your Nikon gear?


Already sold it. When I make a change, I do it full on:/ It’s a curse.

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Dec 28, 2021 11:08:36   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
murphle wrote:
Already sold it. When I make a change, I do it full on:/ It’s a curse.


How about the Olympus stuff?

I own multiple brands. They're all good. I'm always happy when someone switches brands usually there are good used gear deals available !

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Dec 28, 2021 11:55:40   #
murphle Loc: Wisconsin
 
JD750 wrote:
How about the Olympus stuff?

I own multiple brands. They're all good. I'm always happy when someone switches brands usually there are good used gear deals available !


I know what you mean! I’m keeping all the Olympus gear. It’s an amazingly lightweight kit that does a ton in a smaller package. I’ve loved the M1 Mkiii since I first held it because it felt like a small D850 in my hand. It’s my go to when I hop the train to Chicago for a day trip!

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