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Dec 27, 2021 03:15:58   #
peterjoseph
 
About a month ago i had a cataract operation in one eye and was comparing my eyes by closing one and looking with the other and the colors were different. I was wondering which is correct and colors as seen by different people and did a Google Search and came up with these interesting facts.
Color perception is an exception. Women and men generally perceive colors differently. Women experience the world in warmer colors,for eg and can usually distinguish shades of red better than men. Men on the other hand are better able to perceive poor contrast and rapid movement. It is assumed that this has an evolutionary background. In primeval times women had to able to see red berries on a green bush for eg and men had to hunt wild animals.
In an experiment women were more adept at distinguishing between subtle gradations than were men. This sensitivity was most evident in the middle of the color spectrum with hues that were mainly yellow or green women were able to distinguish tiny differences.
Do people see different colors differently ?
We sometimes think of colors as objective properties of objects much like shape or volume. But research has found that we experience colors differently depending on gender, national origin, ethnicity, geographical location and what language we speak. There is nothing objective about colors.
Do different lenses have different colors?
Yes the lens design and construction can and does influence color reproduction. Different glass formulas and different coatings transmit frequencies of light differently and lens defects such as flare will likely affect the color reproduction.
There are small differences in our perception of color. I found this interesting and wanted to share .
Peter

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Dec 27, 2021 04:46:00   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Yup.

Add the following and weep…

First, our perception of colors and color shades depends on our health and our ability to see.
Second, it depends on your setup (calibration)
Third, it depends on what media the color is viewed onto.
- Print size/viewing distance/interference.
- Monitor/screen size & calibration if any
- Ambient light

Name it, and you will get almost everything to interfere with our ability to see the same thing…

Considering this, your research is really limited, even if interesting.

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Dec 27, 2021 04:53:41   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
peterjoseph wrote:
About a month ago i had a cataract operation in one eye and was comparing my eyes by closing one and looking with the other and the colors were different. I was wondering which is correct and colors as seen by different people and did a Google Search and came up with these interesting facts.
Color perception is an exception. Women and men generally perceive colors differently. Women experience the world in warmer colors,for eg and can usually distinguish shades of red better than men. Men on the other hand are better able to perceive poor contrast and rapid movement. It is assumed that this has an evolutionary background. In primeval times women had to able to see red berries on a green bush for eg and men had to hunt wild animals.
In an experiment women were more adept at distinguishing between subtle gradations than were men. This sensitivity was most evident in the middle of the color spectrum with hues that were mainly yellow or green women were able to distinguish tiny differences.
Do people see different colors differently ?
We sometimes think of colors as objective properties of objects much like shape or volume. But research has found that we experience colors differently depending on gender, national origin, ethnicity, geographical location and what language we speak. There is nothing objective about colors.
Do different lenses have different colors?
Yes the lens design and construction can and does influence color reproduction. Different glass formulas and different coatings transmit frequencies of light differently and lens defects such as flare will likely affect the color reproduction.
There are small differences in our perception of color. I found this interesting and wanted to share .
Peter
About a month ago i had a cataract operation in o... (show quote)


I am pretty sure most of the difference in perception of colors between people is due to how the brain or "mind" interpret what we see. And not so much the mechanical or optical system of the eye. Why your two eyes now see differently is yes, because the two lenses are different from one another, one natural, one synthetic. If you later have the other eye operated on they might then give you the same view of colors and other characteristics. And of course the vision between different species is different. Birds, Dogs, Apes, Insects all see the world very differently. None is more correct than another for each. We humans can create machines such as cameras that are more objective but it is to our human standards. Yes, camera lenses can transmit color and contrast differently. I find my vintage film lenses give a different look than my modern digital lenses on the same camera. And I find my oldest ones from the seventies or before approximate what I like best and so I do not have to fuss as much using Ps for their Raw images. Your post was interesting, though you can see I have thought about this before. And I suspect Men and Women hear differently too. It seems like there is a lot of differences in my house. Take care.


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Dec 27, 2021 05:29:46   #
Don W-37 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand
 
Most women can quickly distinguish between a regular cc, a gold cc and a platinum cc. My wife is an expert.
😁😁😁

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Dec 27, 2021 05:29:52   #
Don W-37 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand
 
Most women can quickly distinguish between a regular cc, a gold cc and a platinum cc. My wife is an expert.
😁😁😁

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Dec 27, 2021 05:30:05   #
Don W-37 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand
 
Most women can quickly distinguish between a regular cc, a gold cc and a platinum cc. My wife is an expert.
😁😁😁

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Dec 27, 2021 05:30:18   #
Don W-37 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand
 
Most women can quickly distinguish between a regular cc, a gold cc and a platinum cc. My wife is an expert.
😁😁😁

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Dec 27, 2021 05:51:19   #
peterjoseph
 
Thank you for viewing and sharing your knowledge on the topic
Peter

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Dec 27, 2021 06:27:13   #
ggenova64
 
Do You See What I See?

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Dec 27, 2021 07:27:21   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
peterjoseph wrote:
About a month ago i had a cataract operation in one eye and was comparing my eyes by closing one and looking with the other and the colors were different. I was wondering which is correct and colors as seen by different people and did a Google Search and came up with these interesting facts.
Color perception is an exception. Women and men generally perceive colors differently. Women experience the world in warmer colors,for eg and can usually distinguish shades of red better than men. Men on the other hand are better able to perceive poor contrast and rapid movement. It is assumed that this has an evolutionary background. In primeval times women had to able to see red berries on a green bush for eg and men had to hunt wild animals.
In an experiment women were more adept at distinguishing between subtle gradations than were men. This sensitivity was most evident in the middle of the color spectrum with hues that were mainly yellow or green women were able to distinguish tiny differences.
Do people see different colors differently ?
We sometimes think of colors as objective properties of objects much like shape or volume. But research has found that we experience colors differently depending on gender, national origin, ethnicity, geographical location and what language we speak. There is nothing objective about colors.
Do different lenses have different colors?
Yes the lens design and construction can and does influence color reproduction. Different glass formulas and different coatings transmit frequencies of light differently and lens defects such as flare will likely affect the color reproduction.
There are small differences in our perception of color. I found this interesting and wanted to share .
Peter
About a month ago i had a cataract operation in o... (show quote)


Three years ago, at age 91, I had the cataract operation on my left eye. The difference it made between the left and right was remarkable; in the right eye, white was not white, but yellowish and a little hazy. This was corrected when I had the operation on my right eye a year later.

Just prior to the operations, and as a result of someone's comments here, I had taken the on-line Munsell 100-hue color test, which indicates the degree to which one can discriminate between very similar shades of the same color. From my score it was apparent that I was about one in 10,000 - as I scored 100%. A year ago, I took the test again, and missed 4 out of the 100, still apparently most remarkable.

I have looked on the Internet today, trying to find the test again, so I could post the location here, but was unable to find it! Instead, there are sites with what they call the Farnsworth-Munsell Test, but it only uses 40 colors - not nearly as critical a test. There is, however, good description of the various factors involved in "seeing" color, found at:
https://www.xrite.com/blog/color-perception-part-1, all of which is quite interesting (and informative).

I have attached a screenshot of the original test (obviously, before I took it).

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


(Download)

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Dec 27, 2021 07:41:46   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I am pretty sure most of the difference in perception of colors between people is due to how the brain or "mind" interpret what we see. And not so much the mechanical or optical system of the eye. Why your two eyes now see differently is yes, because the two lenses are different from one another, one natural, one synthetic. If you later have the other eye operated on they might then give you the same view of colors and other characteristics. And of course the vision between different species is different. Birds, Dogs, Apes, Insects all see the world very differently. None is more correct than another for each. We humans can create machines such as cameras that are more objective but it is to our human standards. Yes, camera lenses can transmit color and contrast differently. I find my vintage film lenses give a different look than my modern digital lenses on the same camera. And I find my oldest ones from the seventies or before approximate what I like best and so I do not have to fuss as much using Ps for their Raw images. Your post was interesting, though you can see I have thought about this before. And I suspect Men and Women hear differently too. It seems like there is a lot of differences in my house. Take care.

I am pretty sure most of the difference in percept... (show quote)

I have often wondered about peripheral difference from men and women.

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Dec 27, 2021 08:02:09   #
peterjoseph
 
Thank you rlv567
Peter

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Dec 27, 2021 08:04:19   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
rlv567 wrote:
Three years ago, at age 91, I had the cataract operation on my left eye. The difference it made between the left and right was remarkable; in the right eye, white was not white, but yellowish and a little hazy. This was corrected when I had the operation on my right eye a year later.

Just prior to the operations, and as a result of someone's comments here, I had taken the on-line Munsell 100-hue color test, which indicates the degree to which one can discriminate between very similar shades of the same color. From my score it was apparent that I was about one in 10,000 - as I scored 100%. A year ago, I took the test again, and missed 4 out of the 100, still apparently most remarkable.

I have looked on the Internet today, trying to find the test again, so I could post the location here, but was unable to find it! Instead, there are sites with what they call the Farnsworth-Munsell Test, but it only uses 40 colors - not nearly as critical a test. There is, however, good description of the various factors involved in "seeing" color, found at:
https://www.xrite.com/blog/color-perception-part-1, all of which is quite interesting (and informative).

I have attached a screenshot of the original test (obviously, before I took it).

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City
Three years ago, at age 91, I had the cataract ope... (show quote)


Interesting post. During research on cataracts before my operation I learned that Monet was NOT happy with the color of his paintings AFTER his late in life cataract operation... I imagine he had gotten used to the warmish tones .

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Dec 27, 2021 08:22:52   #
wakeupnfly Loc: wyandotte, Mi
 
Color temperature of lighting makes a major difference also. That is the reason that it is listed on the new bulbs. The films of yesteryear took this into account as we are aware of the color shading of fluorescent or tungsten bulbs. Daylight can be different depending on the time of day and even weather. We have the "Golden hour" the "Blue hour" etc. Look at the difference between a snowy landscape on a bright sunny day - very blue and a rainy overcast day with fall colors of leaves - very saturated colors. I find it amazing how our brains interpret color to "correct" the color to what we view as normal. Skin tones have very little red under fluorescent lighting and lots of warm tones under tungsten, yet our minds tend to correct for most of the color shift correcting our sight to what we consider to be skin tones. The amazing mind!

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Dec 27, 2021 08:28:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I am pretty sure most of the difference in perception of colors between people is due to how the brain or "mind" interpret what we see. And not so much the mechanical or optical system of the eye. Why your two eyes now see differently is yes, because the two lenses are different from one another, one natural, one synthetic. If you later have the other eye operated on they might then give you the same view of colors and other characteristics. And of course the vision between different species is different. Birds, Dogs, Apes, Insects all see the world very differently. None is more correct than another for each. We humans can create machines such as cameras that are more objective but it is to our human standards. Yes, camera lenses can transmit color and contrast differently. I find my vintage film lenses give a different look than my modern digital lenses on the same camera. And I find my oldest ones from the seventies or before approximate what I like best and so I do not have to fuss as much using Ps for their Raw images. Your post was interesting, though you can see I have thought about this before. And I suspect Men and Women hear differently too. It seems like there is a lot of differences in my house. Take care.

I am pretty sure most of the difference in percept... (show quote)


I seriously doubt that everyone's cones and rods are identical. maybe similar, maybe not so much.
Yes, the mind may be a good portion of it.

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