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Oct 23, 2012 08:30:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
There was some discussion the other day about downloading pdf manuals and getting/not getting a paper manual with the camera. So far, all my cameras have come with a manual, but I know that some don't. This might save the company money, but it can be a nuisance for someone on a shoot who has to look something up. Yes, you might be able to download a pdf to a smartphone, but having the paper in hand might be better.

I recently got a Yamaha receiver, and it comes with a quick setup sheet - no manual. For details about operation, I had to download the pdf manual. So, if I have a question about operation, I have to look it up on the computer or print out all those pages. Not a good situation.

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Oct 23, 2012 08:52:56   #
lorenww Loc: St. Petersburg
 
I always like the manual in hand. If I only had the pdf for my camera I would only print a handful of the most important pages.

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Oct 23, 2012 09:46:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
lorenww wrote:
I always like the manual in hand. If I only had the pdf for my camera I would only print a handful of the most important pages.

That's waht I generally do. I print certain pages with setting info. For my DVD, I print a copy of a page or two and keep them handy. I printed six-sided laminated cards for my cameras, and they come in handy.



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Oct 23, 2012 10:58:56   #
EstherP
 
jerryc41 wrote:
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I recently got a Yamaha receiver, and it comes with a quick setup sheet - no manual. For details about operation, I had to download the pdf manual. So, if I have a question about operation, I have to look it up on the computer or print out all those pages. Not a good situation.


For each of the cameras I have (or have had), I have printed out the manual, 2 pages per letter-size sheet single-sided, cut them in half, and taken to Staples to put a coil through the papers.
I am right-handed and the last time I did this, put the pages in such a way that the printed page is the left one when the booklet is open, and the right page is blank - great for taking notes and the coil does not get in the way of writing.
EstherP

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Oct 23, 2012 11:02:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
EstherP wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
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I recently got a Yamaha receiver, and it comes with a quick setup sheet - no manual. For details about operation, I had to download the pdf manual. So, if I have a question about operation, I have to look it up on the computer or print out all those pages. Not a good situation.


For each of the cameras I have (or have had), I have printed out the manual, 2 pages per letter-size sheet single-sided, cut them in half, and taken to Staples to put a coil through the papers.
I am right-handed and the last time I did this, put the pages in such a way that the printed page is the left one when the booklet is open, and the right page is blank - great for taking notes and the coil does not get in the way of writing.
EstherP
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I never thought of printing two pages per page. Good idea. Back-to-back is no good - too much bleed-through.

I'm one step ahead of you with the binding. Years ago we got a spiral binding machine so my wife could bind her piano music into groups that she wanted. We've gotten lots of use out of that.

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Oct 23, 2012 11:08:12   #
EstherP
 
Jerry, if you wouldn't live clear across the continent, I'd come and ask to borrow/use your binding machine. I've looked at them, too expensive for occasional use.
EstherP

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Oct 23, 2012 11:19:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
EstherP wrote:
Jerry, if you wouldn't live clear across the continent, I'd come and ask to borrow/use your binding machine. I've looked at them, too expensive for occasional use.
EstherP

Yes, they have gone way up in price since we got ours in 1995.

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Oct 23, 2012 11:36:25   #
Dadyassa Loc: Spain
 
I bought a ceiling fan a couple of years ago, the fitting instructions were on a dvd, great if you have a laptop with you or a dvd player and tv. ;-)

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Oct 23, 2012 11:41:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Dadyassa wrote:
I bought a ceiling fan a couple of years ago, the fitting instructions were on a dvd, great if you have a laptop with you or a dvd player and tv. ;-)

I guess printing a DVD is cheaper than printing a regular manual.

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Oct 24, 2012 02:20:28   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
I keep mine on my iPad. With the new mini-pad, that may be a better solunton.

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Oct 24, 2012 06:19:38   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
EstherP wrote:
Jerry, if you wouldn't live clear across the continent, I'd come and ask to borrow/use your binding machine. I've looked at them, too expensive for occasional use.
EstherP


You can take it to Staples and they will bind it for you, Spiral bound which is better than glued binders. I used to glue up my own in high school, stack the paper between a table top and a piece of hard wood, clamp the board right on the edge, glue it up with rubber cement (or other) slap on a piece of muslin (or other) (be sure to glue both surfaces) and Viola! if you really want to do it yourself.

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Oct 24, 2012 06:22:49   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There was some discussion the other day about downloading pdf manuals and getting/not getting a paper manual with the camera. So far, all my cameras have come with a manual, but I know that some don't. This might save the company money, but it can be a nuisance for someone on a shoot who has to look something up. Yes, you might be able to download a pdf to a smartphone, but having the paper in hand might be better.

I recently got a Yamaha receiver, and it comes with a quick setup sheet - no manual. For details about operation, I had to download the pdf manual. So, if I have a question about operation, I have to look it up on the computer or print out all those pages. Not a good situation.
There was some discussion the other day about down... (show quote)


We recently bought a new TV. It came with a single page instruction sheet explaining how to plug in the various components (Digital Recorder, Games Machines etc.) and how to switch it on. The full manual, it was explained, was available as a pdf on-line. This manual is nearly 200 pages in length and is for every model TV they make. Fortunately, I have Acrobat which allowed me to excise all the superfluous junk and print out the 30-page manual.

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Oct 24, 2012 06:44:23   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There was some discussion the other day about downloading pdf manuals and getting/not getting a paper manual with the camera. So far, all my cameras have come with a manual, but I know that some don't. This might save the company money, but it can be a nuisance for someone on a shoot who has to look something up. Yes, you might be able to download a pdf to a smartphone, but having the paper in hand might be better.

I recently got a Yamaha receiver, and it comes with a quick setup sheet - no manual. For details about operation, I had to download the pdf manual. So, if I have a question about operation, I have to look it up on the computer or print out all those pages. Not a good situation.
There was some discussion the other day about down... (show quote)


As usual you, to paraphrase, "hit a nail on its head"! So far, I've been fortunate in that all that I have came with paper instructions.

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Oct 24, 2012 07:26:09   #
mdeman Loc: Damascus, Maryland
 
I take a Kindle Fire with me on all my travels. Each camera's manual is on it in a PDF file. With my old eyes, being able to see the manual enlarged is a real plus.

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Oct 24, 2012 07:55:02   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Us be OLD OLD OLD, If you asked/complained to a Teen you would get an odd look. In the school system that I TALF (temp assigned learning facilitate... SUB) in the advanced/honors classes use an i-Pad for a text, and actually email some assignments. Certainly better than 50#, 20 kg, of text books.

Personally, I like to have hip pocket size PAPER manuals. Also I buy books on the software to learn tricks of the trade. Paper vs PDF/on-screen is like Sex vs Virtual-Sex... just ain't the same!!! If your eyesight gets so poor you can not read on screen, then just for get any of the stuff in this paragraph.

Perhaps companies realize that, at least for men, they just pickup the camera and start going thru menus. Like the assembly of that book case... ooops, that goes on first.

The downloaded manual for my new Pan ZS20 is either 35 or 145 pages depending on depth of detail, just-get-started or now-what-else will it do... surly the GPS will act as a world wide TV receiver and an any where phone... ya thank zo, huh?

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