Two pictures in the fog
Dec 11, 2021 11:26:52 #
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
Dec 11, 2021 11:38:16 #
RonHo wrote:
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
Wow so right.
Of course you are comparing very old camera technology with new cell phone technology.
But there is a big improvement over the D850 as you show in the intervening years with cell phones.
Dec 11, 2021 11:57:51 #
NickGee
Loc: Pacific Northwest
RonHo wrote:
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
The phone pic is not necessarily better than the image from the D850. Rather, image #2 is better than your processed and exported version of the D850 image. The sensor on your D850 (~36 x 24mm) is massively larger than the sensor on your phone (5.66 x 4.23mm), so the processing potential (so to speak) far exceeds that of the phone. Of course, the D850 also lets you capture RAW. Phone cameras are quite good these days, but from a purely technical perspective you enjoy massively superior *potential* quality with a full-frame camera like the D850.
Dec 11, 2021 12:23:04 #
cahale
Loc: San Angelo, TX
RonHo wrote:
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
In my opinion, if the first shot was taken in RAW, you could have done many things with it. The jpg in the second, not so much.
Dec 11, 2021 12:51:09 #
RonHo wrote:
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
You like the 2nd image better. Fair enough. Accepted.
I have a suggestion. Please describe why you like the 2nd photo better. What is it about the 2nd photo that you like better?
Dec 11, 2021 13:00:44 #
RonHo wrote:
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
I agree with previous criticisms of the second one. In addition, however, the second one is angularly distorted. It look like the structure is leaning, not just tilted, toward our right. The trees also lean but it's not as apparent.
Dec 11, 2021 13:03:57 #
NickGee wrote:
The phone pic is not necessarily better than the i... (show quote)
You might want to get updated.
i phone 12 pro max has raw.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/proraw-review-i-tested-apple-new-ios-14-3-trick-and-my-iphone-12-photos-look-amazing/#:~:text=The%20release%20of%20iOS%2014.3,of%20the%20native%20camera%20app.&text=With%20the%20release%20of%20iOS,raw%20photo%20format%20called%20ProRaw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN43y5wKVXY
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/take-apple-proraw-photos-iphae1e882a3/ios
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/16/cnn-underscored/apple-proraw-review/index.html
Dec 11, 2021 13:10:07 #
You don't say how much processing you gave #1 but my guess is it's either a SOOC jpg or you haven't given it much in the way of PP. On the other hand #2 has been given extensive processing in-phone before it's exported. If the post processing were to be factored in you'd find that #1 could be given extensive PP whereas #2 is probably already close to its limit. As others have noted, #1 will have far more potential than #2 where PP enhancement is concerned. I suspect the truth is that the camera manufacturers and the photo editor software writers could learn a lot from the phone manufacturers.
Dec 11, 2021 15:29:17 #
R.G. wrote:
You don't say how much processing you gave #1 but ... (show quote)
Your D850 does extensive processing in camera.
ALL cameras/cell phones do not have a true SOOC capability.
ALL process the data in some algorithm decided by the manufacturer prior to you being able to see the image.
Dec 11, 2021 15:50:29 #
If you had stored the D850 image, we could have told you what was needed to be done in the processing that differs from the built-in intelligence of the phone. A few obvious differences that can be seen from the thumbnails:
1. The color saturation of the phone is higher.
2. The shadows of the cell are better exposed / processed.
3. The sharpening of the cell is better, a whole lot better.
4. The WB of the cell seems exactly the same, it's the processing of the blacks, whites, shadows seem the difference more than any difference in the K temp.
If you'll attach and store the DSLR, we could better tell you why shooting with a DSLRasour is likely to fail.
1. The color saturation of the phone is higher.
2. The shadows of the cell are better exposed / processed.
3. The sharpening of the cell is better, a whole lot better.
4. The WB of the cell seems exactly the same, it's the processing of the blacks, whites, shadows seem the difference more than any difference in the K temp.
If you'll attach and store the DSLR, we could better tell you why shooting with a DSLRasour is likely to fail.
Dec 11, 2021 16:29:23 #
Dec 11, 2021 16:31:53 #
RonHo wrote:
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
Nicely done 🔥⭐⭐🔥
Dec 11, 2021 16:35:16 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
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If you'll attach and store the DSLR, we could better tell you why shooting with a DSLRasour is likely to fail.
If you'll attach and store the DSLR, we could better tell you why shooting with a DSLRasour is likely to fail.
Attach the DSLR? Is that a new UHH feature? That will be useful in the "Members Buy/Sell/Trade -- Classifieds" section.
Dec 11, 2021 16:39:15 #
All the comments here have value.
The fact is for many people, they can take pics they like better, using their phone. That is because the higher performance cameras require some knowledge and skill to get the most out of them.
The fact is for many people, they can take pics they like better, using their phone. That is because the higher performance cameras require some knowledge and skill to get the most out of them.
Dec 11, 2021 16:43:14 #
RonHo wrote:
Picture #1 taken with Nikon D850 in the A mode, picture #2 in with I phone 12 pro max.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
For me the second picture is better. So the cell phones have come a long way in challenging the big boy’s. What’s your opinion.
RonHo if you decide you don't want that D850, I'm sure many here will be happy to unburden you from it.
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