Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
Effect of "point and shoot" cell phones on the profession of photographer?
Page 1 of 22 next> last>>
Dec 6, 2021 18:44:22   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Some critics claim that now that everybody uses "point and shoot" cell phones at all events and through life--photographers will be even in less demand than ever? But maybe the opposite is true? The Kodak boxes that every family had did not end portrait or commercial photography. There will always be a market for quality. And it takes photographic skills to get good photos with any camera---just as it takes artistic skills to make a valuable painting with a brush and paints.

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 18:48:48   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Of course the photographer is more important than the equipment, but amateurs with a good sense of composition can get pretty acceptable images with today's top quality cell phone cameras. For many people, that's enough.

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 18:59:08   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
Not everyone uses them, any more than everyone watches the "idiot box", AKA, TV. Hopefully, skill and quality will win out.

Reply
 
 
Dec 6, 2021 19:13:20   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
Personally, I'm planning to hold out on upgrading my iPhone 6S+ until the rumored G4 565Mpxl IpHONE MCDVIIProPlusFrikkin'PLUS goes on special, which ought to be pretty doggone soon since we're coming into the XMAS season. Not to mention that just to cover all the bases, I also sent a letter off to Santa just yesterday.

But if Santa doesn't deliver, and if Abe's of Maine baits-'n-switches me to a (unrepairable) 'gray' non-USA-ian Android something-or-'nuther that I can't even make a phone call on, I SWEAR I'm just going to go back to finger-painting for fun and profit!!!1!!

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 19:19:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Did the Instamatic have an affect on professional photographers?
People are taking the same pictures, just with their phone and more of them.

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 19:24:37   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
But is that only wishful thinking? To me, a work of art has many layers of attraction and that is what makes it great. You can look at a Dutch masterpiece painting while paging through a book or look at it in detail and study it in a real gallery. Each time seeing deeper into the layers of perfection. But there are few layers with phone photos, and often just one--a startling quick view. The "blue hour" distorted photos seem the norm? But do people pay for more---even at their WEDDINGS? That is the question. Has it made such events photography dry up or become "even" more competitive? And do people who do hire an events photographer, hire just a "candidman" and paying for the copyrights---and have their own prints and books made?-----ew

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 19:27:29   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
But is that only wishful thinking? To me, a work of art has many layers of attraction and that is what makes it great. You can look at a Dutch masterpiece painting while paging through a book or look at it in detail and study it in a real gallery. Each time seeing deeper into the layers of perfection. But there are few layers with phone photos, and often just one--a startling quick view. The "blue hour" distorted photos seem the norm? But do people pay for more---even at their WEDDINGS? That is the question. Has it made such events photography dry up or become "even" more competitive? And do people who do hire an events photographer, hire just a "candidman" and paying for the copyrights---and have their own prints and books made?-----ew
But is that only wishful thinking? To me, a work ... (show quote)


One point in time, it was the fashion to have a disposable camera for each Wedding guest which they turned in at the end of the event. That was at least an interesting idea, though I haven't seen it recently.

Reply
 
 
Dec 6, 2021 19:31:00   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Some critics claim that now that everybody uses "point and shoot" cell phones at all events and through life--photographers will be even in less demand than ever?


Thirty years ago, everybody was using point and shoot film cameras, including the disposable kind. Of course not everyone, but the majority of casual shooters certainly were.

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 19:32:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Thirty years ago, everybody was using point and shoot film cameras, including the disposable kind. Of course not everyone, but the majority of casual shooters certainly were.


Reply
Dec 6, 2021 19:39:42   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
As I said in my opener----The Kodak brought a "photographer" to every family after 1900. And all of America's family memories were recorded with those. My question is whether or not a pro has noticed a difference in the digital age of "point and shoot." Certainly there will always be a few people who demand quality. But has the "profession gone to pot completely?" What is the real life trend going on now? As one person pointed out---you can take a $10grand Nikon--put it on auto and you have a point and shoot for a ten year old. (or words to that affect?)------------ew

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 19:53:16   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
But is that only wishful thinking? To me, a work of art has many layers of attraction and that is what makes it great. You can look at a Dutch masterpiece painting while paging through a book or look at it in detail and study it in a real gallery. Each time seeing deeper into the layers of perfection. But there are few layers with phone photos, and often just one--a startling quick view. The "blue hour" distorted photos seem the norm? But do people pay for more---even at their WEDDINGS? That is the question. Has it made such events photography dry up or become "even" more competitive? And do people who do hire an events photographer, hire just a "candidman" and paying for the copyrights---and have their own prints and books made?-----ew
But is that only wishful thinking? To me, a work ... (show quote)


"....a Dutch masterpiece... seeing deeper into the layers... of perfection" -vs- "few" layers with phone photos? Apples -vs- cumquats much? They both taste like chicken to me.

Ok, I'm sure you're intending to be serious here, but whiskey-tango-foxtrotting around the central issue --which is, and will of course forever be-- that nobody who hasn't shot 4"x5" (or greater) will ever produce (anything akin to) a "Mona Lisa". (Did Leonardo use Ps? Or Vermeer? Or Van Gosh? or did they use Gimp to get their layers?).

Reply
 
 
Dec 6, 2021 20:03:38   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
If anyone was a Technocrat in his day, it was Leonardo. Myriad accomplishments, military, flood control, flight, the list certainly qualifies him at the top end of the Polymath Scale in any age.

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 20:04:29   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Cany143------So---is or isn't photography an art form to you? Is it just recorded images and data?---ew

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 20:04:51   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Here is the purpose of my topic: At fourteen I was a paid photographer with three jobs--both for cut film news and groups as well as processing and enlarging. And now I would like to rekindle an events professional business. But people around me claim there is no longer a market. At best now, weddings hire a "candidmen" by the hour and make up any books or large prints themselves. That there is no longer a wedding photographer market. So far the answers to my question are the same as my descriptive question that quality and slop co-exist--always have, always will? I am wondering if there is a downward trend in actual professional photo work. I understand that market has always been competitive and otherwise low paying like a store clerk.-----ew

Reply
Dec 6, 2021 20:06:12   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Maybe this is the wrong forum to find actually working professionals in the field---TODAY.?-----ew

Reply
Page 1 of 22 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.